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 @ISIDEWITHDiscuss this answer...3yrs3Y

No

 @9GK28G3CA Common Sense from Maine agreed…8mos8MO

Top Agreement

The...LGBTQ(a lot of plusses apparently) litreally all suffer from gender dysphoria. That is a mental disorder. Why promote an disorder?

 @9GLFNC6 from Georgia agreed…8mos8MO

You shouldn't change you body until you are of age because the body has not fully developed so you should wait until then if you still have the same beliefs then go ahead by all means

 @9GKYYW2 from Kansas disagreed…8mos8MO

Only transgender people have gender dysphoria. All modern science concurs that the mental disorder is only able to be treated by transitioning.

  @Ars-Gratia-Artisdisagreed…5mos5MO

All modern science concurs that the mental disorder is only able to be treated by transitioning.

Actually, modern science does not support this. While yes, some places have found findings that all transgender people have gender dysphoria (I wonder why this correlation exists, /sarcasm) this is not an effective cure. Many people have expressed continued problems after their transitions. While some are happy and make it past, some are not. I agree that it is a mental disorder. However, many people who tried a therapeutic route also expressed positive results. It is not factual to state that all modern science concurs, it actually does not, nor that the only treatment is transitioning. In…  Read more

 @9GN97F4  from Massachusetts disagreed…8mos8MO

That statement is worded incorrectly, or rather purposefully, in order to force a homophobic viewpoint. Your tone is negative and sarcastic in hopes of swaying the contestant to your personal bias against members of the LGBTQ+ community. This leads me to believe you're not entirely convinced in the cause nor willing to learn. Also, the unnecessary "..." indicates your question doesn't stem from innocence, but rather a mocking rhetoric towards those of an opposite viewpoint. As for the complaint on the many "plusses", there's only one collective plus represen…  Read more

  @Ars-Gratia-Artiscommented…5mos5MO

As much of a Grammar Nazi as I am (hail Oxford) this partially constitutes an ad hominem attack.

Your logical fallacy is ad hominemhttps://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

That is not a valid argumentative tactic. Try again.

 @9HZ8L7C  from Colorado disagreed…5mos5MO

If we're just going to correct spelling and grammar, there's some stuff I would like to mention:

  1. You're in the middle of a word, as well as a sentence, so a new paragraph isn't needed ("one collective plus representing all").
  2. It would actually be led or leads, rather than lead ("this question lead me to believe you gave").
  3. Etc. actually has a period right after it because it is an abbreviation. ("bisexual, omni, etc")

And as for the argument itself, if these individuals that are struggling because of the "issue of poor mental health,"the…  Read more

  @Ars-Gratia-Artiscommented…5mos5MO

Actually, they do not. The LGB group and the TQ+ are actually having a major schism right now. The concept of LGB relies entirely on a gender binary existing. That is, what is "gay" if any of the two biological sexes are both considered men? The erasure is unintentional, certainly, but the two groups don't really have much to do with each other. And honestly, yes, the pluses are out of hand at this point. The disorder is promoted because the population is loud, and will try to silence dissenters. Like Jordan B. Peterson. I don't think they're wrong on some things, and…  Read more

 @9G4ZNF2 from Washington D.C. disagreed…8mos8MO

All people, including young people, have the right to bodily autonomy and self-expression. No one else has the right to tell them how they must perform gender or what they can do to their own bodies.

 @9HZ8L7C  from Colorado commented…5mos5MO

 @85HZ8T4Socialist from Washington disagreed…9mos9MO

It literally is none of our business. It is a private and personal medical decision process between the patient and their medical provider.

 @9GJJHP9 from California agreed…8mos8MO

Kids should not undergo gender reassignment surgery due to concerns about their ability to make informed decisions and the need for careful evaluation and support.

 @ISIDEWITHDiscuss this answer...3yrs3Y

No, children should not be allowed to make irreversible life decisions

 @TheRacingWolf  from North Carolina disagreed…9mos9MO

Top Disagreement

The suicide rates of children who receive gender-affirming care are astronomically lower than those who don't. Additionally, the divorce rate and the amount of people who work in a field unrelated to their college major are much higher than the rate of people who regret transgender surgery. While the former two are encouraged, the latter is looked down upon.

 @98HV8R7  from Maine disagreed…9mos9MO

The concept of gender-affirming care is too recent to record accurate data regarding its effects. Teenagers who receive gender-affirming care will not experience the full scope of the decision until they reach an age of maturity, apply for jobs, date, begin careers. Only then will the concept of "regret," or not, be accurately recorded. Children who are unable to consent to sexual relations, vote, pay taxes, or be approved for a loan should not be subject to gender-affirming care, particularly if the procedure creates permanent physical changes.

 @9HZ8L7C  from Colorado commented…5mos5MO

The most in-detail study on this says otherwise. The conclusion says:

"Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group."

The suicide rates from that same study are also quite shocking. People who have undergone gender-reassignment…  Read more

 @9FPLGCR from Illinois agreed…9mos9MO

I agree with this very much. As a transgender citizen, gender-affirming care has ended my depression, which was a result of biochemical issues due to my brain being wired to receive testosterone. I am functionally a male, and without gender-affirming care I would likely have killed myself by now.

  @Ars-Gratia-Artiscommented…5mos5MO

Out of curiosity, and please don't attack me, would therapy possibly have created a similar outcome?

 @9JTVXMF from New York commented…4mos4MO

The vast majority of Trans folks that have pursued gender-affirming care have undergone years of therapy to get there. Your medical team (including your therapist) has to clear you for gender-affirming care. Some folks can combat their gender dysphoria and related depression with a combination of affirming therapy and self-expression, but this is uncommon.

Just try to keep in mind that everybody's different, A way is not THE way, and that gender-affirming care saves lives.

 @9G7ZH5B from Georgia agreed…8mos8MO

Transgenderism is wrong, and with an undeveloped mind you must be borderline retarded to suggest that anyone should give a child permission to get an irreversible procedure with lifelong negative effects

 @9GB5SGP  from Kansas disagreed…8mos8MO

If a child is expressing that they are not comfortable in their own body, you should be paying attention to that. Not how you may feel about what they are saying. Put your child's needs before your beliefs. They may be young or old, but they know how they feel. It is THEIR bodies. You shouldn't be using "restarted" as a reference to this topic, or anything really. That's just as wrong as how you feel about this topic.

 @9G8GB96 from Virginia disagreed…8mos8MO

Literally nobody is suggesting surgery on children. Straw man arguments do nothing productive when it comes to discussing gender affirmation for children.

 @9G84979Libertarian from Wisconsin disagreed…8mos8MO

There has been scientific evidence to prove that those who are transgender have higher similarities with the brain of the gender they identify with. The youngest person to CHOSE to have SURGERY was 16. It is often that medical professionals will force intersex children to fit societal standards but no on is upset about that. Gender affirming care has been proven to reduce suicide by 70%.

  @bmelan1 from Louisiana disagreed…8mos8MO

How mature of you to use mental disability to describe someone.

Seriously, no one is allowing children to just get random surgeries on a whim. People have to go through years of psychological therapy before medical professionals even think about allowing them on blockers, much less hormone replacement or surgical procedures. If a child is under 18, they have to have parental/guardian permission to even go through with these medical steps. If parental/guardian permission is given before 18, surgeries and hormone replacement are not even allowed until later in this person's transition unles…  Read more

 @9FBGL67 from Texas agreed…9mos9MO

Children have all types of wild thoughts and ideas. Adults have the responsibility to guide them through those

 @9HGW5LH from Texas disagreed…7mos7MO

Yes

The WPATH suggested requirements to recieve trans related care are high enough, as per the Standards of Care.

The WPATH suggested requirements needed for minors to recieve trans related care are high enough to eliminate those that are just too imaginitive.

The following recommendations are made regarding the requirements for gender-affirming medical and surgical treatment (All of them must be met): 6.12- We recommend health care professionals assessing transgender and gender diverse adolescents only recommend gender-affirming medical or surgical treatments requested by the patient when: 6.12.a- the adolescent meets the diagnostic criteria of gender incongruence as per the ICd-11 in situations where…  Read more

 @85HZ8T4Socialist from Washington disagreed…9mos9MO

Medical care is a private and personal decision making process between the medical provider and the individual. Government directive and interference is unnecessary and unconstitutional. This transcends far beyond the concept of gender transition, which still remains a private and personal decision making process that is (and should be) protected under the constitution.

 @ISIDEWITHDiscuss this answer...3yrs3Y

Yes

 @9GL88Q4Independent from New Hampshire disagreed…8mos8MO

We do not allow children to drink, smoke, or even vote. The human brain is not fully developed until age 25. Children can not make this decision and must wait until they are adults.

 @9GLQNTLProgressive from Florida disagreed…8mos8MO

Children under 18 are allowed to get any medical procedures if their parents consent. To ban medical procedures related to gender transitioning under 18 you would have to prove how those specific treatments cause harm which we don’t have any objective proof of.

 @9HZ8L7C  from Colorado disagreed…5mos5MO

But greenlighting that surgery, whatever it is, is done by making a honest and informed decision. Doctors are scaring parents by saying things like "Would you rather have a living son, or a dead daughter?" This scares parents into making this decision, rather than looking at the other options available.

And as for the proof of it being harmful, the most in depth, long term study we have shows that people who get these gender affirming procedures done are 27 times more likely to commit suicide. But the doctors don't care, or even don't know about that data. They just take the paycheck. And the parents are left scared and guilty.

 @9GMFQ8LRepublican from Missouri agreed…8mos8MO

Kids shouldn't even be worried about transitioning, they are too young to know whats best for them. Kids also make stupid mistakes and if they transition then they will have to live with that for the rest of their lives.

 @9GLCJ3F from Connecticut agreed…8mos8MO

I agree, children don't have the maturity in a decision like that and should only decide when adults so that they are aware of what they want.

 @9GLC2BV from Ohio agreed…8mos8MO

I agree that children should be fully aware of this decision and support the age being moved up to 25 or even 30.

 @8LC79N5Republican  from South Carolina disagreed…9mos9MO

Top Disagreement

That studies have shown the vast majority of children will outgrow any dysphoria if they are not medically or socially transitioned, and that suicide rates remain at the same high rate pre and post transition, suggesting transitioning is of dubious benefit.

 @9FBMTDMWomen’s Equality from Pennsylvania disagreed…9mos9MO

While that may be true, if you do not give the child the choice, support, and help they need they may end up dead because of your carelessness.

 @8LC79N5Republican from South Carolina commented…9mos9MO

<p class="excludedBG purifiedBG">And they may end up dead if you do, that is the point of the original comment. In that case, it is better to do nothing. They can always transition as adults, but cannot undo many of the changes if transitioned young.

 @9FWSFVN from California disagreed…9mos9MO

They are making life changing irreversible decisions at a time when your going through both physical and mental changes in their life, once an adult you should be able to do what you want.

 @9FBGL67 from Texas disagreed…9mos9MO

The yes answer is based on a grouping of relative terms that can't be proven or disproven. It's all just based on the feeling and random thoughts that a child has, not based on any truth objective fact.

 @ISIDEWITHDiscuss this answer...3yrs3Y

No, and ban all gender transitioning treatments

 @9FMVY8K from California disagreed…9mos9MO

I believe people should be allowed to have treatments for transitioning no matter what because only they can know what gender they truly feel like or relate to.

 @9FNMR4Y from Nebraska disagreed…9mos9MO

The best counterargument is their body their choice. As long as they are not hurting you or hurting themselves they should be allowed to have access to legal methods. They shouldn't have to live with horrible mental health issues and harmful behavior due to not receiving gender-affirming care.

 @85HZ8T4Socialist from Washington disagreed…9mos9MO

Agree or disagree, private medical decisions are private medical decisions. Treatment for our medical conditions is not open for debate or public input. If I have a medical condition, the treatment I receive should not be dependent on if others agree or disagree with the treatment.

 @9GV49KB from Virginia disagreed…7mos7MO

There is no reason to ban transitioning when it is proven to help transgender people, the rate of people who transition without being transgender is very low, and it would go against their freedom and natural rights.

 @ISIDEWITHDiscuss this answer...3yrs3Y

Yes, but only for non-surgical treatments such as puberty blockers and hormone therapy

 @9H548XJ from Nevada agreed…7mos7MO

This statement is actually a bit misleading out of context, my view is that children should refrain from gender-reassignment surgery until they're over the age of 18 and are sure of their choice. From personal experience, I went on hormone therapy when I was 16, I am now 18 and have zero regrets, though if I found that I did have any regrets, something as permanent as gender-reassignment surgery is much more difficult to come back from if you find that it's not for you. So, if one has been on hormone therapy for an extended period of time, and had lived as the gender they identified as, reassignment surgery is a highly valid option to fully transition if that's what the individual desires.

 @9GRLJJWfrom Guam agreed…8mos8MO

Gender dysphoria is recognized by both the American Psychiatric Association and World Health Organization and the recommended treatment to this disorder, which is typically associated with anxiety and depression, is gender-affirming care such as puberty blockers and hormone therapy.

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