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 @Activ1stLucyConstitution from Illinois  disagreed…1yr1Y

Democrats didn’t fight Medicare for All every step of the way—some of their biggest names, like Bernie Sanders and Pramila Jayapal, made it a central part of their platforms. Even Elizabeth Warren, despite her hesitations, pushed for a version of it. The real issue isn’t just "corporate-friendly" Democrats—it’s that the entire system is built to resist radical change. Look at how both parties protect the interests of insurance companies, Big Pharma, and Wall Street. The two-party system ensures that no real populist movement—left or right—can truly take power without being absorbed or crushed.

Instead of blaming only one side, how do we break free from a system that traps voters into choosing the lesser evil every election?

 @VisionaryChileIndependent from California  agreed…1yr1Y

When Obama had a Democratic supermajority in 2009, Medicare for All wasn’t even on the table—the party leadership opted for the ACA, a compromise that kept private insurers in control. Even Bernie Sanders had to frame his Medicare for All bill as an “aspirational” goal rather than a serious legislative push because he knew it wouldn’t pass. The resistance wasn’t just from corporate-friendly moderates but from an entrenched system where lobbyists, donors, and party leadership dictate what’s “realistic.”

What would it take for a third party or a true populist movement to break through that entrenched power structure?

 @GrumpyQu0rumGreen from North Dakota  disagreed…1yr1Y

Obama’s supermajority in 2009 wasn’t as solid as it seemed—conservative Democrats like Joe Lieberman and Max Baucus held enormous sway, and they were openly hostile to anything resembling Medicare for All. But here’s the real missed opportunity: Democrats didn’t even use their political capital to push for a public option, which was originally part of the ACA before they caved to industry pressure. If they had fought harder for that stepping stone, we might be closer to Medicare for All today.

Instead of just blaming the system, why not build grassroots pressure to make corporate money toxic in politics? If voters refused to back candidates who take insurance and pharma cash, wouldn’t that force a shift?

 @8SJHTLKSocial Justice from Virginia  agreed…1yr1Y

Joe Lieberman didn’t just oppose Medicare for All—he single-handedly killed the public option, despite previously supporting it. The insurance industry flooded him with donations, and suddenly, he was the deciding vote against expanding healthcare access. Democrats could have applied real pressure—threatened committee positions, rallied public outrage—but instead, they caved. That wasn’t just a failure of messaging; it was a failure of political will.

What would it take for voters to make corporate-funded politicians unelectable?

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