On October 7, 2013 California Governor Jerry Brown signed a state bill prohibiting law-enforcement officials from detaining an individual on the basis of a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement hold after that person becomes eligible for release, unless he or she has been charged with or convicted of certain crimes, including violent felonies.
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@B2MXH98Independent 3mos3MO
No, only if they are convicted of a violent crime for DACA recipients and non DACA illegals should be deported
@9X2P6MZProgressive7mos7MO
Yes, however this measure ought not be an immediate deportation-sentence without due process according to immigration policies.
@94CM82C3yrs3Y
yes, and all non-american immigrants should be deported immediately.
@92RKQFY3yrs3Y
No, but it depends on the minor crime
@928XH2Q3yrs3Y
No, they should be punished according to the seriousness of the crime
@922YNBJ3yrs3Y
No, but they should be put on a pathway to citizenship
@8Z4NJ343yrs3Y
Only if the crime is very heinous.
@8YW9C5M3yrs3Y
no, as long as it is a minor infraction. If it is a larger infraction, yes
@8YCJ66G3yrs3Y
it depends on what they did
@8XLQS2QLibertarian3yrs3Y
Immigrants need to be adhering the processes in place for immigration. That said, the United States' immigration policy needs to be desperately revamped so that an immigrant can successfully navigate it in a reasonable amount of time.
@8WKRQ3L4yrs4Y
it depends on the seriousness of the situation
@8TZTYJY4yrs4Y
Yes, morals aside, we need to discourage illegal activity and encourage legal immigration.
@8T87DKNIndependent4yrs4Y
Yes, if the minor crimes are repeated offenses.
@8S48XXFRepublican4yrs4Y
no, only if they are convicted of a violent crime but too many non-violent immigrants are being deported
@8RPQBK24yrs4Y
Laws creating illegal immigrants should be removed from the law books.
@8RNXNV44yrs4Y
There should be no such thing as illegal immigrants, except violent criminals.
@8RJ7N9B4yrs4Y
With no laws making immigration illegal there would be no need to turn immigrants over to federal immigration authorities. Of course this doesn't mean all immigration would be legal. Those immigrants who have been convicted of financial or violent crimes should be deported.
@8RH9XD44yrs4Y
Immigrants who are convicted of minor crimes and then serve their sentence and make restitution shouldn't be turned over to the feds.
@8QGR4MF4yrs4Y
well yes and no because if you come to a new country or even visiting a different country when you break the certain laws they have set down you're going to be up in big trouble regardless how it goes but if it's like they ran a light or mini things that doesn't include hurting or killing or endangering others then it doesn't seem like a bigger reason to go straight to deporting because of them being an immigrant.
@8QGMKNR4yrs4Y
I think illegal immigrants should be deported but the process to become a citizen should be easier.
@8QC48BR4yrs4Y
to answer the question it would be obviously yes because they took an oath to uphold the laws of the nation but asking with the word “allowed” is very idiosyncratic but my opinion on it is it should all depend on the situation of the immigrant.
@8PWJ88KRepublican4yrs4Y
Only for a violent crime.
@8PWFVP24yrs4Y
No if it is a minor crime yes if it involves drug trafficking or other violent crimes including hurting children or if it comes from a non-terrorist country
@8PVR6TP4yrs4Y
Yes, detain them if they commit a crime, but don't turn them in for deportation, as that is unnecessary.
@8PVL3994yrs4Y
This depends on what "minor" crime means. Who decides if it's minor?
@8PV9S3H4yrs4Y
only if convicted of violent crime.
@8PTSPN34yrs4Y
Yes. Even if they are minor crimes, they are still crimes.
@Rezzvoir4yrs4Y
No, only if the crime is really horrible!!
@8PBQQT84yrs4Y
They shouldn’t be transferred they should just be kept for whatever time they need for that crime and then let free just talk to them a lot and not send them back.
@8P3PL845yrs5Y
Yes, but they should still be allowed to apply for citizenship and start a new life
@8NXX47F5yrs5Y
No they should turn to get citizenship or be deported
@8NW9HY3Libertarian5yrs5Y
yes, but not the DACA kids
@8NDCCQ85yrs5Y
If there is time to deal with it or space to put them in a local prison. Otherwise if you deport them it'll be faster and less work
no they should do the time then become a legal immigrant
@8MLZN2N5yrs5Y
No, they should have the same punishment as everyone else (for the same crimes)
@8MLZL7H5yrs5Y
No they should gave the same punishment as anybody else for the same crimes
Should be dependent on the crime and situation.
@8MD2ND7Independent5yrs5Y
Illegal immigrants should be held to the same legal standard as citizens
@8MBL29M5yrs5Y
No because I think we all know somewhat on hoe the federal immigration authorities treat illegal immigrants and we know it's terrible and we wouldn't want to be treated like that so don't do it to someone else.
@8M9BT595yrs5Y
they should face regluar charges a citzen of the us would face but they shouldn't get deported
@8M5R3PJ5yrs5Y
Once found to be an illegal immigrant you should be deported straight away.
@8LZRJ8F5yrs5Y
No, Allow a path to citizenship or face deportation.
@8LZNVVH5yrs5Y
No, if the crime is minor they should be set on the path to citizenship
@8LZGDTC5yrs5Y
No, only is they are convicted in a crime that wasn't self defense.
@8LYQW9G5yrs5Y
@8LW6CSK5yrs5Y
I don´t know much about this
@8LVTYN2Independent5yrs5Y
I lean yes, but I worry about the abuse of this power, should be taken on a case by case situation depending on the person's track record and current situation
@8LVHRYLLibertarian5yrs5Y
Yes but instead of deporting them provide a path to citizenship as long as the crime isn’t drug related.
@8LTCCRK5yrs5Y
We should have open borders. No one should be considered"illegal".
Probably but most immigrants travel to the U.S for opportunity and work. No American wants to do basic work I can assure you, I personally feel immigrants help keep grocery prices low.
@8LSDB5D5yrs5Y
depends o n the crom commited
@8LRLN2GRepublican5yrs5Y
Yes, but it depends on what crime they committed.
@8LRFHXTRepublican5yrs5Y
No, not if they are working, paying taxes and law abiding citizens
@8LQKH5W5yrs5Y
Yes, and for those who were brought here illegally and have committed no crimes, they should have a path to citizenship
it depends on what they do
@8LMNC7B5yrs5Y
A traffic stop, no. A minor theft, yes
@8LL2P4M5yrs5Y
Local leos do not have room to hold illegal immigrants to wait for feds to deport them it is a federal function fix the failing system
@8LJFJQJ5yrs5Y
depends on what he or she did
@8LJF5ZX5yrs5Y
If they have family here and aren’t harming anyone it should be okay for them to stay.
@8LH5GBKRepublican5yrs5Y
no, unless the cop knows hes an illegal immigrant.
@8LH26YF5yrs5Y
I feel like yes and no it depends on what the crime is
@8LG2DCW5yrs5Y
If they're here illagly they should be detained no matter any crimes
@8LDR8RH5yrs5Y
deverian deportar gente que esta hasiendo violencia no personas que vienen a. buscar un mejor futuro a este pais
@8LBRW9J5yrs5Y
There's a lot of race relations issues with deporting them over minor crimes, and one's situation may be different from one another.
@8L6XK8C5yrs5Y
if the crime is minore then no but if it was hard crime then yes
@8L6BX3B5yrs5Y
yes, but only if they have an illegal background and did a very violent or bad crime.
@8L4CSN85yrs5Y
I think they should't be deported but they should still get arrested.
@8L46MJ35yrs5Y
Yes, but legal residence should be more accessible
@8L3W9LY5yrs5Y
yes, but only if the full family come with unlike the Obama plan where they left many kids behind away from there familys
@8J2BLBS5yrs5Y
Yes however they should be given a lawyer and a reasonable time to make their case in court while being situated in temporary housing with their family.
@8HMQ9R95yrs5Y
No, as long as they are applying for citizenship
@8FPZKLF5yrs5Y
One chance and then deported if it is non-violent misdemeanor.
@8F8P4QX5yrs5Y
I think it depends on the crime and the case
@8DTRFYS5yrs5Y
Yes but human rights should still be upheld
@8D947BD5yrs5Y
Becoming a citizen should be easier, and ensure all immigrants for at least minor offenses are at least trying to become legal
@8CHRCFJ5yrs5Y
Yes, but be nice about it.
@8C57FGR5yrs5Y
Illegal immigrants are in-country at their own risk. If they commit a crime, they are caught and subject to imprisonment and/or deportation.
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@97DGLDF3yrs3Y
I think they should prove they are a good person but if they do something bad bad then you could bring them back to there original country
@927Z7CV3yrs3Y
Don’t really have a stance on this issue
@8ZC4MLMLibertarian3yrs3Y
No, unless the crime is violent/extremely malicious. If they can pay a fine, they shouldn't be deported.
@8RVMM6N4yrs4Y
No, only if they are convicted of a violent crime, too many non-violent immigrants are being deported.
@8PWVTY7Women’s Equality4yrs4Y
Yes, but they should be able to work towards becoming an American citizen.
@8M2D4NN5yrs5Y
Je ne suis pas assez informé
@8LRBBGCLibertarian5yrs5Y
if its a crime like stealing then yes but if its j walking then no
@8LLYX575yrs5Y
No, and we should abolish ICE.
@8LCSQYH5yrs5Y
@8LCP9FQ5yrs5Y
Yes, but only if there becomes some way of determining legal/illegal status that does not require individuals to keep “status” papers or identification on them at all times.
@8HSDTF25yrs5Y
No, only if they are convicted of drug charges, or violent crimes, or after a maximum amount of illegal activities
@8GGCN9F5yrs5Y
Yes, but they should be given a set amount of time to complete the correct immigration process or become a naturalized citizen.
@8RKDFWP4yrs4Y
No, only if they are convicted of a violent crime. But too many non-violent immigrants are being deported.
@8BVCB3Y4yrs4Y
The term "minor crimes" is too vague as opposed to the learn more section. That aside, major crimes such as violence felonies should result in a being turned over to federal immigration authorities. Minor crimes should be taken into consideration after a certain accumulated amount.
@8RYDSCY4yrs4Y
Yes, if they were born here and abolish all national borders. And grant citizenship to all after performing 4 years of military service or graduating college
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