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Our oil "reserves" – but not the un-drilled oil in the Alaska Wildlife Refuge, which is worth billions, not the massive amounts of oil yet to be drilled in Texas – but Alaska, Alaska is one of the most oil-rich areas on the planet. I didn't mean we should rely only on our oil reserves, I meant we should drill MORE oil!

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@9CJ6CB6 from Virginia commented…2yrs2Y

And if we do so, we devastate everyone living in the area, including both the environment round it and the people already living there. Overall, if the oil spills, we may need to spend billions cleaning it up in the process, not to mention the issues we’d have actually rescuing the people affected. Don’t believe in climate change? Smog is still a problem, along with the pollutants it puts in our air. Not to mention, the oil companies already have thousands of leases being completely unused due to the fact that they don’t WANT lower prices, they’ll sacrifice the lower… Read more oil prices for their own profit, and as such, the issue of drilling lies solely with them in the first place. Also, if we drill in Alaska, the permafrost is the cost. Ever heard of what happens with permafrost, or what’s underneath? We’ve discovered over 100 diseases in a single ice core from that, and there’s enough methane underneath to give the earth a good ten years of emissions as it melts, boosting the problem so much further than usual. The geological problems get even further in, causing sinkholes, landslides, extreme droughts, and state-wide displacement of most animals, often humans could be on the list. So, in short, REALLY bad idea to suck the oil out of Alaska, that’s how we cause disease, drought, severe emissions, and destroy entire ecosystems.

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@Patriot-#1776Constitution from Washington commented…2yrs2Y

Thanks for the information – I never thought to consider the poor little frogs, and flies, and fish, and deer when thinking of ways to stop human beings from being homeless and destitute

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@9CJ6CB6 from Virginia commented…2yrs2Y

Did you read my message like… at all? Humans are drastically affected too, there’s diseases, by the thousands, that we haven’t discovered underneath the permafrost, and when that stuff melts, we get to meet them in full force. Over 90% of Alaska is covered in it, and when we drill there, that stuff disappears a lot faster, endangering the cities and towns of almost all of Alaska. It’s not just the animals, it’s the people, the towns, and eventually large amounts of Alaskan land becoming destitute.

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@Patriot-#1776Constitution from Washington commented…2yrs2Y

I did, but it was so boring my brain probably instantly deleted the bulk of it, explaining our current situation. Perhaps to break up the monotony you could season your emotional unloads with a dash of logic and maybe a hint of truth – then, I'm certain, my brain, which actually has an above average capacity for memory, would retain much more of it. It's sad how little control we have over such things :(

Apparently you don't know this (chuckle) but bacteria die within 24 hours on most surfaces and can't survive long OR grow in freezing temperatures ... that's how… Read more freezers work – they impede the growth of bacteria by cooling it to a very low temperature. It would be highly improbable (to say the VERY LEAST) that diseases could survive for thousands of years (that's probably why permafrost has never killed anyone before).

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@9CJ6CB6 from Virginia commented…2yrs2Y

Not to mention, the problem is worse than it looks, even if the disasters of mining that oil were averted, it gives us less than a decade, our consumption is going to bite us in the butt, and that’s why we need to move away from oil in all feasible forms NOW, because our supplies alone can’t last long. With what we have now, we last five years without imports, and using all that we can, we only last about a decade more, so how about we either degrow a bit, or we move the duck away at ALL COSTS. The potential problems with our “independence” can obliterate our energy… Read more economy before most of the younger people even reach college, so regardless of if you believe in climate change, we need to move now, and do so quickly. If we use all possible sources, we get 20-30 years on our own, but no matter what, those prices aren’t going to stay down for long.

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@9CJ6CB6 from Virginia commented…2yrs2Y

The wording here is MOST surfaces, permafrost doesn’t kill the bacteria, it often just preserves them, and we’ve found thousands of LIVE specimens inside it. Siberia has been having a lot of problems with permafrost melting already, and it’s not pretty in the slightest. Football field-sized sinkholes keeping popping up in roads and rivers out of nowhere due to the methane and carbon dioxide releases underground from melting permafrost, leading to a high possibility of humans taking a hit if it shows up under a city. They’ve had close calls of anthrax coming directly… Read more from the melted permafrost infecting deer, and it actually spread to a team of researchers studying the newly green areas that were previously icy and stark, as they’re supposed to be. The droughts in Siberia have led to record fires across the region, even when it’s supposedly one of the coldest places on earth. From the very same region, we’ve discovered living viruses that have never even glanced human eyes, one ice core showed over 1000 new specimens, many of them alive. Also, the viruses that landed in there often already had protection from cold temperatures, meaning that many of them have the advantage, and there’s thousands of years of viruses stacked on top of one another down there. It only takes one to start a big problem. The total 9 million square miles of permafrost contains about enough CO2 and methane that it is twice the amount of greenhouse gases in our atmosphere, much of these things are based in Alaska, and Russia, leaving us with severe problems if it melts.