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Trump doesn't connect to average Americans either. He can only connect with men which eliminates 50% of the population of the bat.

"He can only connect with men..." Pure lies. It just so happens that every woman I know bar maybe five is voting Trump, and more would if they could.

Its was a general statement. For the most part he connects only with Straight cis white men, but this is not always the case. Most women don't support him considering he's a threat to their rights.

He won Latinos by historic margins, winning the most hispanic county in America by 16 points. He connected with black men, losing them by less than any GOP candidate in recent memory. He connected with white married women, winning them. He connected with American Indians, whom he won by double digits. Stop spewing these lies. It turns out that people with brown skin, contrary to what you libs like to think, actually have functional brains and can decide on issues for themselves. It turns out people with different skin colours hate crime and inflation and child mutilation and baby murder and nuclear war as much as anyone else. It turns out that your party's Great Replacement conspiracy is backfiring big time because these Hispanic Catholics are pissed off, and they helped save our country this week.

My issue with all of these margins is they make no sense. Trump's made his stance on women and minorities very clear. He despises Hispanics. He wants to strip trans people of their rights. He wants to practically eliminate women's reproductive rights. There's clearly some statistic twisting here.

Also I'm not a Democrat :) The Dems can and should go phuck themselves along with the GOP. Neither party stands for positive change. The GOP wants to go backwards while the Dems want to sit here and twiddle their thumbs and do jack phucking spit.

If he loves Hispanics so much why does he want to deport so many of them. Why does he think Mexico should pay for his wall?

So with abortion by state, women in Blue state have more rights than those in red state. Because that's "fair"

There's a difference between anti establishment moving towards fascism and anti establishment moving towards actual equity, Trumps the first of the 2.

Because they came here illegally...? Why is this hard for you to understand...? If you break the law, then, no matter what your race is, you get punished appropriately. Why does he think Mexico should pay for his wall? Because Mexico is sending in all their criminals into here, and because unlike you libs, Trump actually is looking out for the interests of the country he was elected to lead, so of course, as a Patriot, he wants what's best for America, not what's best for Mexico.

You're an atheist, so please define what "fair" means and why I should give a crap about…  Read more fairness without invoking God. And, if you have to invoke God, your argument pretty much falls apart because then there are moral rules like "don't kill people" that would demand all abortion be outlawed.

You're way over simplifying the border issue as is Trump. Most of the illegal immigrants aren't criminals they're desperate families looking for a better life. Mexico's pretty poor country there's limited access to food, housing, electricity, clean water, and education in many areas. Many people are very poor. And desperate. And when people are desperate they will try to leave. They go to the US usually, because our country is known for being a good place to live. Now as for the question of why they don't immigrate legally, there's a pretty simple answer.…  Read more The US immigration process is extremely time consuming and costs quite a bit of money. Most of these desperate people don't have that. So they are forced to resort to illegal crossing of the border or likely death. If the US would make the process simpler there would be far fewer illegal immigrants crossing.

To hell with the reason they're here. No one cares. The definition of a criminal is someone who breaks the law. There are laws that say that you most come into this country through an established, legal process. The illegal aliens violated those laws. Since a criminal is someone who violates laws, they are criminals. And since criminals must be punished and criminals must face justice, they must face justice by being deported to their nation of origin.

Mexico has been totally ruined by socialism. Them paying for a wall is a drop in the bucket compared to how much money they waste on stupi…  Read mored programs. It will have almost no effect on the already-horrible lives of the people who live there. I feel sorry genuinely for the Mexicans who did not vote for socialism and are forced to live under it. They can come here legally if they like, and I hope they will to warn our nation of the dangers of socialism. But they cannot come illegally.

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Yes, they are commiting a crime, the great crime of being desperate and seeking a better life. . The only reason they cross illegally is because they are unable to stay long enough to wait out the process of crossing legally which can take years. If the US had a simpler immigration process that took less than months or years then maybe less people would cross illegally. We could do all the necessary background checks much faster than we currently do.

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Mexico's not a socialist nation. And the welfare programs have made the standard of living go up significantly especially in educati…  Read moreon. However Mexico's development is unable to keep up with its growing population, meaning there simply isn't enough to go around in all cases. If it weren't for these "socialist" programs there'd be even more illegal immigrants.

(1) You're telling me nothing I don't already know. I. know that the intentions of many criminal aliens is to get a better life, but I don't care. Because justice is blind. It doesn't factor in why you committed a crime. It just punishes crime. I don't care why they broke my country's laws, but I care that they did, so I want them to be punished.

(2) It's not a perfectly consistent socialist utopia where class is totally abolished and everyone holds hands and sings koombaya, because that's impossible, but it has adopted many socialist principles to an…  Read more even greater degree than the US.

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By this argument the US should be punished for causing any deaths that occur as a result of deporting the illegal immigrants as be sent them to their deaths no?

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And said principles have helped the nation.

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It wasn't in Hitler's self interests. He got the USSR, France, Great Britain, and the US to invade his country. Also the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising shows that even when the Jews were imprisoned they could fight back against him. He also had 27 assassination attempt against him Your argument revolves around a hypothetical. But we have a very similar example in history: Joseph…  Read more Stalin. He did have the power to silence opposition, but this came a a negative price for him. His mental state. The more people he killed the more he thought people wanted him dead. His fear was completely irrational, he was extremely popular when he was alive in the USSR, but it made him descend into paranoia lead to a continuous stream of purges as he thought more and more groups wanted him dead. This was seen in Hitler too as the end of his Reich, he rarely appeared publicly and when he did he wore armor to protect him from a nearly non existent threat. This is seen in almost all authoritarian governments the leaders get extremely paranoid about non existent threats. Personally I'd say giving yourself parinora is not in your best interests.

(1) Yes, there should be consequences if any illegal aliens die while en route to their country of origin, unless they traded drugs or committed crimes other than illegally crossing the border here

(2) Exactly. That's why Mexico is now a world power that is outcompeting the US by every possible metric and has generated insane amounts of wealth and brought prosperity to the lives of its citizens

(3) However, Hitler thought it was in his self-interest. Actions have consequences and justice will eventually be exacted, whether in your lifetime or on judgment day. Of course he had no way of kno…  Read morewing for certain it would benefit him, but the point was that he thought it would.