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 @PacifistRaisinsGreen from Texas  commented…2yrs2Y

The idea that rights are limited is simply not true. OUR rights were outlined to limit the GOVERNMENT from impeding on them. There is absolutely no where in the Constitution which grants the government the right to limit our rights. There is nothing that says "Free speech EXCEPT hate" or "Keep and bear arms EXCEPT outside the home." The idea that our rights can be limited was made up by the very government this is supposed to be limited so they can ignore our rights.

 @ThrillingS0v3reignDemocratfrom Guam  agreed…2yrs2Y

Government exists to maintain civil order and "to effect [the] Safety and Happiness" of the People. When one person's actions impact another's interests, it is entirely proper for government to regulate those actions. Free speech does not protect one's right to incite a riot (yell fire in a crowded theater). Rights are absolutely limited. The absence of limits is anarchy.

 @PacifistRaisinsGreen from Texas  agreed…2yrs2Y

And a proper test for rights being impaired is when one person uses force or fraud against another. Absent that, there is no rights violation at all.

 @J0intResolutionSwiftLibertarian from North Carolina  disagreed…2yrs2Y

ok armchair lawyer. its not like we have centuries of case law and legal experience to figure this out. Each amendment on the bill of rights has its own tests, that courts have came up with through the centuries after studying issues that come up.

 @PacifistRaisinsGreen from Texas  disagreed…2yrs2Y

Thanks for the promotion! Certainly I am no lawyer, although I very much admire those lawyers who think in fundamentals associated with liberty and the right all of us have to live as we choose, with one caveat: the use of force or fraud against another is immoral, unjust, and ultimately irrational.

To a rational person, who wants to live their life as they choose, in pursuit of their own happiness and values, they must also afford all others that same ability. It is irrational to expect that rights violating criminal or civl actions taken by yourself should not be allowed to others. More simply, crime should not pay.

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