If straight people can marry consensually, and above 18, then so can gay people, the gender doesn’t matter in the slightest.
@9FDCTKL2yrs2Y
We are pretty clearly in the Bible that it is a sin in God's eyes. You also can not take 2 threaded male ends of a pipe and put them together. The same goes for 2 female ends of a pipe, they do not work with each other.
@9CJ6CB62yrs2Y
The Bible isn't a basis for how the government should decide things. The Old Testament is filled with promotion of things the government could never stand for, so it's factuality in policy should be taken with a grain of salt. Not every marriage is built upon the desire to have kids, and adoption is an option either way. They shouldn't be held back because the bible said so and... procreation.
While it's true that the Bible shouldn't be the basis for governmental policies, it's also important to remember that many laws are influenced by moral and ethical standards, which often have roots in religious beliefs. For example, most societies agree on laws against murder, theft, and perjury, which are all prohibited in the Ten Commandments. That's not to say that religion should dictate laws, but it's undeniable that it has played a role in shaping societal norms.
As for marriage not being solely about procreation, I agree. However, it's also crucial to cons… Read more
@9ST7HGX1yr1Y
Not a huge fan of fiction, sorry. Any works of non-fiction you can cite? And if you're position hinges on the gender of tools, we're on an entirely different wavelength.
@@1876-Elbert 1yr1Y
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How about you try to find something any truer.
@B6K9PKWProgressive2mos2MO
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
@Renaldo-MoonGreen11mos11MO
Have you tried to find something that doesn't rely on assumptions of truth?
@9TM9M9G1yr1Y
You probbably need to find another source other than the Bible, as fewer people are Christian now. I myself believe in the Bible, but not everyone does.
@Ars-Gratia-Artis2yrs2Y
Heh, I've tried that before. Flex tape solves that. Or a soldering iron.
@Freedom761yr1Y
Disgusting.
@9TYJFHK1yr1Y
I don't care what you plumbing-purist snobs have to say.
As long as the pipe holds without leaking, it's good enough for the water main.
@9TM9M9G1yr1Y
You can’t use inanimate objects to represent humans. A car wouldn’t drive if they had a square and circle wheel, therefore same sex marriage is okay, according to this logic.
@9FFCDCF 2yrs2Y
I agree. Gay marriage should be protected by law as it does not harm anyone, nor does it involve anyone other than the people in the marriage.
@HelcovichEmireRepublican5mos5MO
If 2 men can marry, then why can't 2 siblings? Both face the same issue: they can't make a baby (brother and sister could but the baby would probably have many issues).
@9FD68Q8Republican2yrs2Y
Gay marriage is just not how life is meant to be. You cant reproduce with another person from the same gender as you, which is the the reason gay marriage should not be allowed, and it should only be between male and female.
@9CJ6CB62yrs2Y
So then if they can’t reproduce then they can’t marry? Who cares? There’s plenty of straight couples that can’t have kids but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t marry. Not to mention that over 1,500 species have shown homosexual tendencies, penguins being among the higher ones. Nature isn’t against this, it’s just people that have little understanding. Not being able to reproduce doesn’t mean you can’t marry, and reproduction isn’t always done through marriage either.
Your point about reproduction is interesting, and while it's true that not all couples can or want to have children, marriage historically has been linked to procreation and societal stability. However, in recent times, marriage has evolved to mean more than just a means for reproduction. It's also about companionship, emotional support, and mutual respect.
Regarding nature, it's true that over 1,500 species exhibit homosexual behavior. However, it's also important to note that while animals behave instinctively, humans possess the ability to reason and make choices. Our actions are not solely driven by instincts but also by our norms, beliefs, and laws.
That said, how would you reconcile the traditional definition of marriage with the evolving societal understanding of it?
@9CJ6CB62yrs2Y
I’d say the point of marriage is love and commitment. That’s the societal point I’d make, it doesn’t matter how it’s formed (as long as above 18 and consensual), it just needs love and commitment, and I truly don’t care how it functions as long as they’re happy and safe. Reproduction could be one of the main facets of it, but that shouldn’t be a societal requirement unless they choose, as opening up options for families is just a rather good idea.
@9JZLWQL 2yrs2Y
Interesting perspective. My question would be if love and consent are the only requirements for marriage, would you extend the right to marriage to a foursome? Or a six some?
The reason I ask is because if love and commitment are the only qualifications for marriage does that not imply that marriage can be more than two?
Also, it is problematic to start defining marriage along the lines of personal preference and cultural taste. If we allow a change in the definition of marriage, from what it has been for thousands of years, I believe we run the risk of starting a precedent where all other ter… Read more
@PleasedNomineeGreen2yrs2Y
While I agree with your sentiment that love and commitment should be the foundation of any marriage, it's important to note that societal and cultural norms often play a significant role in shaping our understanding of institutions like marriage. For instance, in many societies, marriage is viewed as a union for procreation and the continuation of lineage. This view may not align with the more liberal perspective of marriage as solely based on love and commitment.
Take, for example, societies where arranged marriages are prevalent. In these societies, marriage is often seen as a union… Read more
@9HGMXYXIndependent2yrs2Y
That has to be the smartest thing i have heard someone say in a while
@B3C3HQL7mos7MO
Your argument doesn't hold water.
Many straight couples choose to never have children.
People in the LGBTQ+ community are people too.
If they don't want children, that's their choice.
Why are you mad that some people want to love the way that they choose?
@9FDZ6W82yrs2Y
Gay and straight people are the same and there's no need to have a kaw to differentiate them. Just let everyone live, it is never that deep
@solo-von-kickpaw 11mos11MO
Sorry to burst your bubble, but no one cares about your petty little love life. Go back to your closet where you belong instead of trying to shove your alternative lifestyle down our throats. Marriage is for a man and a woman, not for a couple of queers. Keep your deviant behavior to yourself and quit trying to change the norms of society
@9FDB6VYRepublican2yrs2Y
Even tho it does not affect me I still have my opinion and I dont think they should be able to marry the same sex. It should just stay the same as it was with the straight couple
@9CJ6CB62yrs2Y
For what reason? Because they can't procreate? That insinuates that if you can't then there's no point in marrying. Is it because they'll lack the father or mother figure needed? Those parents can still act as such, and that doesn't drastically affect the lives of kids raised by them. If anything, the fact they can't procreate actually helps with adoption and reduces the number of orphans.
@HelcovichEmireRepublican5mos5MO
If gender doesn't matter, than neither should age or familial relationship. But they do matter.
@HelcovichEmireRepublican5mos5MO
Why? Because a brother and sister cannot make a healthy baby. Well, 2 men or 2 women can't even make a baby at all!
@9FF8ZC22yrs2Y
Completely agree. Allow people to live their lives as they see fit, as long as they are not actively hurting others. two people consensually marrying hurts nobody, regardless of gender.
@9FF427W2yrs2Y
I agree with this so much. Like. I agree 100%, they worded it perfectly. Gay people being married has no effect on peoples lives.
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