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The electoral college takes away the right of the American people to choose their president by placing it in a arcane system that has chosen the loser of the popular vote twice in the last 20 years.

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  @jwolfsg1590Republican  from California  disagreed…2yrs2Y

We are not a Democracy. We are a Constitutional Federal Republic. The Electoral College ensures that heavily populated states do not override the will of the less populated states. You would feel differently about the popular vote if you lives in those less populated states.

  @VulcanMan6  from Kansas  disagreed…2yrs2Y

First of all, the fact that we aren't a democracy is exactly the problem, because we should be a genuine democracy. Secondly, there is no good reason why anyone's votes should be disparaged just because they live in a more populated area; if more people vote for A than B, then A is what should be chosen. If people in more rural areas have the minority opinion, then that's what local elections are for. Those areas within the minority can elect their own local representatives to reflect their own beliefs for themselves, but the entire nation as a whole should not be subjected to the disproportionate decisions of a minority opinion. The nation as a whole should be decided by the majority, and if those in the minority don't like it then that's what their own local elections are for.

  @Patriot-#1776Constitution from Washington  disagreed…11mos11MO

The real problem is that we have become far, far too democratic and egalitarian instead of having true federalism, state sovereignty, decentralisation, and a conservative social order.

 @9JXT4NB from Idaho  commented…1yr1Y

A Constitutional Federal Republic is a form of democracy. Saying that it isn't is like saying a sub isn't a sandwich.

  @Patriot-#1776Constitution from Washington  disagreed…11mos11MO

That's false. In a democracy, whatever on earth the people vote for happens. They vote to send Jews to gas chambers or political opposition to gulags, it happens. In a Constitutional Federal Republic, sovereign and independent states rule their own affairs and can nullify any unconstitutional or abusive federal legislation. The federal government only has carefully enumerated and listed powers that the States delegated to it, and if the people vote for it to assume undelegated powers, screw how they voted. In a Constitutional Federal Republic, liberty is protected. In a democracy, the mob quickly swallows it up. The reason America is dying is because we have become far too democratic. We need more order, aristocracy, federalism, in our politics.

  @Renaldo-MoonGreen  from Pennsylvania  commented…8mos8MO

Could you remind me of what happened to other undemocratic societies... I seem to remember them falling apart.

  @Renaldo-MoonGreen  from Pennsylvania  disagreed…8mos8MO

“They vote to send Jews to gas chambers or political opposition to gulags,”

Those were not issues that were voted on, they were the ideas of one man. The first was one of Hitler's advisors with Hitler signing off on it the second was Stalin who didn't even know what voting was.

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 @ISIDEWITH submitted…12mos12MO

“Throw out everything you thought you knew about this election.”

By Chuck Todd, NBC News:We are getting awfully close to the moment when it might be fair to say, “Throw out everything you thought you knew about this election.”We are now going from a presidential campaign that left the public disinterested and at times disgusted it to a campaign that I could see generating an electorate that might be as interested, if not more so, as in 2008 and 2020, two of the highest-turnout elections in the last 50 years.If the Democrats do end up with a new nominee — and it’s looking more likely by the hour that they will — that, too, is likely to suddenly trigger interest in what the new nominee has to say, which in turn could engage the electorate in a way that the pre-debate version of this campaign just didn’t.But before we get to this campaign reset, the Democrats have to figure out what their ticket looks like and, more important, how quickly they can get their ticket selected and certified by the party.As of this writing, my sources indicate to me that about the only folks who are still trying to rationalize Biden’s staying in this race all share the last name of Biden, with the possible exception of Biden’s longtime chief political strategist, Mike Donilon — who, as the gatekeeper of the data that makes it to the president's desk, is starting to get blame along with Biden and his family for Democrats’ being in this position.

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