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 @9FB87S2  from Texas  disagreed…3yrs3Y

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Yes, eliminating all wage standards may let the hard worker get higher pay, and lazy worker get lower pay, but if there are no wage standards, there is a possibility that some people will compete for a job, which made the markets could "legally" make everyone's salary lower.

 @9FC7TVK from Arizona  disagreed…3yrs3Y

People are going to continue to compete for jobs wether there’s a change in pay or not everyone needs money

 @GorillaChloefrom Pennsylvania  disagreed…3yrs3Y

While it's true that everyone needs money and will continue to compete for jobs, it's not as simple as that. Consider the impact on those in low-wage jobs, often working multiple jobs just to make ends meet. If wages remain stagnant while the cost of living continues to rise, these individuals will face even greater financial hardship.

Let's look at the city of Seattle, for example. They gradually increased their minimum wage to $15 an hour by 2021. Research conducted by the University of Washington found that workers earned more following the wage increase, and there was no…  Read more

 @AnnoyedSocialJusticeDemocrat from Texas  disagreed…3yrs3Y

Oh, Seattle, the golden child of the $15 minimum wage movement. So, everyone's making more money and no one lost their job, right? Well, let's consider a few things. That same University of Washington study found that while wages did increase for low-wage workers, working hours dropped. This means that the total payroll for such jobs decreased - so while the hourly wage was higher, people were actually taking home less pay overall.

And let's not forget, Seattle is a booming city with a thriving tech industry which can arguably absorb higher labor costs better than smaller busin…  Read more

 @KnowledgeSparrowSocialistfrom Indiana  disagreed…3yrs3Y

You bring up a really compelling point about the potential drawbacks of implementing a higher minimum wage, particularly in areas that might struggle to absorb the increased labor costs. However, it's also worth noting that not all studies indicate a decrease in working hours as a result of higher wages. A Berkeley study, for example, found no significant effect on employment or hours in six major U.S. cities that raised their minimum wages.

As for your suggestion about focusing on policies that promote job growth and career advancement, I absolutely agree that these are pivotal factors.…  Read more

 @9FG6NNT from California  agreed…3yrs3Y

Wage standards set a bare minimum which allow individuals to have the right to be paid a specific amount or more. This allows for no one one to be paid less than they deserve.

 @RIPCharlieRepublican from Pennsylvania  commented…5mos5MO

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If your labor is worth a certain amount to a company, that is the most they will pay you. If the minimum wage is raised past that, they will fire you.

 @9FCNVCX from Kansas  disagreed…3yrs3Y

The number of dollars doesn't matter. The value of dollars does. The real minimum wage is $0. So, by getting rid of the minimum wage, we would have the market adjust naturally to the value in which our work is actually valued under the real minimum wage.

  @9CJ6CB6 from Virginia  commented…3yrs3Y

Companies do not have the right to dictate and measure how much the persons worth is, because already it considers “non-essential jobs” to have “nonessential pay”. Take working at McDonald’s for example, it’s not enough to keep someone afloat, but how else do they keep people in that job without them hurting? It’s not nonessential, it’s just worth individually to them, because if it wasn’t essential, it wouldn’t exist.

 @9FFDZP9 from Georgia  agreed…3yrs3Y

i do think that people who work harder should be paid more than lazy workers, however lowering everybody's pay isn't right especially with the current cost rising at the moment.

 @B9VRM6Q  from Nevada  disagreed…4mos4MO

Higher minimum wages reduce poverty. boost local economies, and prevent workers from relying on taxpayer assistance.

 @B9W8YPL from Florida  agreed…4mos4MO

I agree, when people are paid more, they are more likely to pay more on tips, groceries, and in all help te economy

 @B9W485VPeace and Freedom from Texas  agreed…4mos4MO

Yes, i agree with the author of this comment because with with an increase of inflation the past couple of years an increase of minimum wage will more people with be able to afford there necessities and bills without having to rely on tax player assistance

 @B9W2WR4 from Kansas  agreed…4mos4MO

Yes I agree with every point. Companies should be legally required to support their employees and stop the hoarding of wealth.

 @B9VZTD9 from Texas  agreed…4mos4MO

Higher minimum wages can reduce poverty, strengthen local economies, and help ensure workers don’t have to rely on taxpayer‑funded assistance to survive.

 @9GJF3HZ  from Florida  disagreed…3yrs3Y

If we eliminate all wage standard then the payment of worker will be up to the employer and it has been proven that giving people free reign has had dire repressions. While those more skilled will potentially get a higher pay, but they make up the minority of workers. The majority are much less skilled and with no minimum pay they may be cut, which will increase the rising unemployment rates. With no minimum pay people will not want to work, and with how low the wages are currently many worker's will quit, which will bottleneck the skilled workers leading to conflicts which will lead to public outcry, marches, and most commonly violent outbreaks so people can vent there frustrations about the problems that will arise(starvation, pollution, trash, disease, wide spread death, etc.).

 @9GJFMFL from Virginia  agreed…3yrs3Y

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  @jsimicConstitution from Texas  agreed…3yrs3Y

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The gov't should not be allowed to dictate the value of a worker's labor, or ignore the worker's relative contribution. Pay should be determined by market and meritocracy. The less you work, the less you get paid. The less people want the product/service, the less you get paid.

 @9FRSMCF from Louisiana  disagreed…3yrs3Y

This argument is invalid when you consider the average cost of living and inflation. Minimum wage is intended to live off of, and no human being in the United States can live off of $7.25/hour even if they work a full 40 hour work week. Not to mention, with the policies of forced birth following nationwide abortion bans in the states, many low-income workers will be forced to raise their children in poverty. In a free-market society, all work is valuable work and keeps the economy running. It is extremely classist and ignorant to state that federal minimum wage is based on how much you work and how valuable your job is.

 @9FRSC97disagreed…3yrs3Y

There is a difference between money per hour and money per project. Some of that statement is correct, the less you work, the less you should get paid, but that should only apply to people who get paid per project. If you get paid per hour, then the amount of work you do doesn't apply, it is up to your superiors to decide if you work hard enough.

 @9FRT9VXWomen’s Equality from California  disagreed…3yrs3Y

should be paid more to have to deal with and control hostile work environments from customers and co-workers with more hours and more jobs

 @9FFYFK2Democrat from North Carolina  disagreed…3yrs3Y

Most of the population of the USA is homeless or bankrupt. If the government were to increase minimum wage, people would be making more money to provide for themselves.

 @B5MMLDT  from Washington  disagreed…12mos12MO

Do we want to go back to the 19th century? The only reason wages increase is because of minimum wage standards.

 @9FG6VY7Forward from Pennsylvania  disagreed…3yrs3Y

The minimum wage is too low currently and if we increase It, the homelessness rate might drop significantly.

 @9FCTTPZ from Texas  disagreed…3yrs3Y

Some people are selfish and don’t get to see that the minimum wage is sometimes to little for families that are living struggle by struggle everyday.

 @9FG8SLP from Missouri  disagreed…3yrs3Y

Inflation is already a never ending thing but if we keep minimum wage where it is those who are payed minimum wage won't be able to pay for the things they need to to survive.

 @9FC5RGMDemocratfrom Washington  disagreed…3yrs3Y

It will hurt a majority of society, people need to afford to live, and the gap between the rich and the poor is already large and should not get any further

 @9F9P9HRPeace and Freedom from Washington  disagreed…3yrs3Y

certain people who are getting paid the minimum wage should be making more depending on what their job is.

 @9F89JBJRepublican from New York  disagreed…3yrs3Y

I think minimum wage should go up or the people who are making minimum wage get taxed less, because they are working hard for less money..

 @9FB528TPeace and Freedom from New York  disagreed…3yrs3Y

People work for minimum wage and they should be getting payed for way more, because most individuals do much more then asked.

 @9F9HYBX from Virginia  disagreed…3yrs3Y

People who work jobs are working for a reason, and that's to pay for their wants, needs, and loved ones possibly. Many businesses can exploit the elimination of wages and pay less to others.

 @9F9L7CPIndependent from Texas  disagreed…3yrs3Y

A lot of minimum wage jobs are required for society to run smoothly and if the rates don’t increase with inflation spiking all the prices, people will start to leave the work force of these jobs and in turn will harm society as a whole.

 @9F9L9B6 from Kansas  disagreed…3yrs3Y

I think a counter argument to the "No, and eliminate all wage standards" position on Minimum Wage could be that having no wage standards could lead to exploitation and unfair treatment of workers. It's important to ensure that workers are paid a fair and livable wage to support themselves and their families.

 @9FBV639 from California  disagreed…3yrs3Y

People would not be able to truly afford to live in the U.S if the businesses would be able to decided.

 @9F9PB9MRepublican from Georgia  disagreed…3yrs3Y

i dont think that minimum wage should be eliminated because a lot of people work very hard and they don't even make minimum wage and the people that make minimum wage also don't make that much becuase it is so low

 @9F7Z2GPDemocrat from California  disagreed…3yrs3Y

raising minimum wage is important because as the cost of living is increasing, it is seperating the wealthy from the poor, making the rich richer.

 @9F8ZBCW from Illinois  disagreed…3yrs3Y

Minimum wage should be increased by age and how long you've been at that work place . Increasing minimum wage helps people who are in proverty and with inflation sometimes minimum wage isn't enough

 @B5PCWKN  from Georgia  agreed…12mos12MO

Labor is a good that behaves through the law of supply and demand. When looking at a supply and demand graph, you see the equilibrium point where the supply and demand of labor meet; that point is the market-price (or wage) for that particular job. When there is an effective price floor, the supply of labor is forced to the right, while the demand of labor is forced to the left. This is a surplus of labor (also known as unemployment). There are plenty of examples in history of price controls having this effect on the market, such as in the 1970s during the Nixon Administration.

 @B7PZWGM from California  disagreed…7mos7MO

In the determination of law in our current economic state our former president has done a very bad job in keeping legislature up high to raise wages for the ones in needs but however we should teach students how to corporate with financial assistance to teach them something.

 @9F956B4 from Utah  disagreed…3yrs3Y

As inflation increases, the cost of living especially the price of homes outweigh the standard minimum wage.

 @9FBLF3FDemocrat from California  disagreed…3yrs3Y

teenagers deal with many things, including school, work, family orientation that they often do not have time to do very many things therefore the pay should be increased because it allows job to be worth the time and effort put in.

 @9F9X774 from North Carolina  disagreed…3yrs3Y

Minimum wage isn't a livable wage whatsoever. $7.25 isn't enough to pay but one bill each month. Having necessities such as a car, food, and literally everything else.

 @9GPQ4T8CA Common Sense from Iowa  disagreed…3yrs3Y

Its a constitutional right and fundamental idea to have equal opportunity, and a living wage is able to ensure everyone who works, at least has some sort of opportunity. Furthermore, anything less than a minumum living wage is pretty much human’s rights abuse according to international law even.

 @9FNX85Cfrom Pennsylvania  disagreed…3yrs3Y

Absolute disaster move this will be. Eliminating minimum wage combined with current levels of immigration will mean that corporations absolutely suppress wages even further. Will have a disastrous impact on quality of life in the US. More poverty, leading to more homelessness, more crime, more drug addiction etc. Eliminating all wage standards will be one of the worst moves possible for the country.

 @9GG5TBL  from Illinois  disagreed…3yrs3Y

That opens the door for companies to pay people even lower wages to limit cost and increase profit and fill their own pockets

 @9GGJJFT from Florida  agreed…3yrs3Y

the minimum wage needs to be increased as the nation will experience inflation in prices of basic commodities.

 @9GLDY4Cdisagreed…3yrs3Y

When we raise minimum wage, we are giving people the opportunities to pay for their bills and needs and still have something left since everything is expensive now.

 @9GND6FN from Texas  disagreed…3yrs3Y

We should make the minimum wage be able to support every american to be able to afford their rent and groceries

 @9F8QLMJ from Texas  disagreed…3yrs3Y

If people are making only 7.25 a hour nobody can surivie on that type of income and for people of lower income backgrounds and have harder oprotinuntes to go to collage and get a degree and have to work a minmunm wage job and barly provide for their family and for them selfs

 @9FS2J9B from California  disagreed…3yrs3Y

People who have lower wages statistically live shorter lives. If minimum wage were to be removed, the safety net will disappear and those workers will be stripped of their health and wellbeing.

 @9FNXTWT from Nevada  disagreed…3yrs3Y

Minimum wage is in place for people in families in the low class trying to provide for themselves and families, so if there was no minimum wage there would be a rise in homelessness and malnutrition in people.

 @9H2L4KM from Indiana  disagreed…3yrs3Y

TAX THE DAMN RICH AND LOWER THE COST OF LIVING LIKE WE WAS BACK IN THE 1900s ONLY WAY WE CAN LVIE WITHOUT DIEING OUT IS TO GET OFF OUR *^&^^%^&% AND PUT OUR FOOT DOWN AND TAKE A STAND BEFORE HELL BREAK LOSE BECAUSE ONCES THE END TIMES COME WHO iS GOING TO HAVE YOUR BACK YOU CANT TRUST NO ONE ANYMORE WItHOUT GETTING STUBBED IN THE DAMN BACK

 @BC2JQV5No Labels  from Arkansas  disagreed…2mos2MO

Eliminating all wage standards could lead to workers being paid extremely low wages with little protection. Minimum wage laws help ensure that workers receive fair pay for their labor and prevent exploitation, especially for people in low skill or entry level jobs.

 @9GRFQHM from Louisiana  disagreed…3yrs3Y

If we eliminate all standards on minimum wage employers could pay cents per hour to workers and invent a new type of legal slavery

 @9GJGSC6disagreed…3yrs3Y

i think minimum wage should definitely be changed for the better. there are a lo t of people working fast food type jobs trying to support a family off of $10 an hour.

 @9GGZXK7Socialist from New Mexico  disagreed…3yrs3Y

The people who rely on current level of minimum won't be able to feed themselves if businesses are allowed to pay them less

 @9F7GRFQ from New York  disagreed…3yrs3Y

Minimum Wage standards are essential to ensure that employees are able to support themselves in present day America.

 @9F88R84from Virgin Islands  disagreed…3yrs3Y

The minimum wage does not guarantee that people will earn at least that amount of money, it guarantees that people that do get a job will earn at least that. The problem is that if the minimum wage is set above market levels, individuals with little experience and low qualifications will be out of a job because they're not productive enough to justify the higher wages.

 @9FPRVGJDemocratfrom Vermont  disagreed…3yrs3Y

With automation and AI, plus other productivity advancements over decades, we can't start working for pennies to compete against robots or overseas workers, because meanwhile inflation is going up

 @9GKM4XM from Texas  disagreed…3yrs3Y

Yes hw government should because of inflation and make it less harder for people who have families and need to take care of there kids.

 @9GMKCKD from Pennsylvania  disagreed…3yrs3Y

Inflation has increased by 3.11% every year since 1980 and since then it has increased 273.53% which means in 1980 one dollar worth of items for us would have been worth 3 dollars and 74 cents in 1980

 @9GN4BGW from New York  disagreed…3yrs3Y

Minimum wage should increase if taxes are going to be increasing and prices are increasing. How can we afford anything when everything around us is becoming more expensive but our pay stays the same. While I believe this I do believe there should be requirements in earning the minimum wage because there are people who will use that to their advantage and not work as hard as their coworkers.

 @9GNGXC6Republican from Alaska  disagreed…3yrs3Y

yes, I believe that people who work hard should get higher pay while lazy people should get lower pay.

 @9GHSYR3 from Missouri  disagreed…3yrs3Y

If we were to eliminate all wage standards, companies could get away with giving unlivable wages to people working incredibly hard and often. They could simply give out unlivable wages to people who only work this one job, working another job may be out of the equation for them. It would ultimately reflect poorly on the company and cause issues, having some standards creates a safety net for those employees. They are promised at least acceptable pay.

 @B7MCRGX from Illinois  disagreed…8mos8MO

Eliminating all wage standards would be the dumbest thing to do, since you could be working somewhere and your boss could decide you aren't worth being paid the same as everyone else does at the start, they could just not pay you if they wanted.

 @9F7387Q from Texas  disagreed…3yrs3Y

people who get payed minimum wage should be getting more because they work so hard and they give others so much.

 @DreadfulCoyoteGreen from Florida  disagreed…3yrs3Y

It's true that many minimum wage workers put in tremendous effort. However, it's crucial to consider the economic implications of raising the minimum wage. When the cost of labor increases, small businesses, in particular, may struggle to keep up, leading to job cuts or even business closures. For instance, in Seattle, a study found that when the minimum wage was raised to $15 an hour, some low-wage workers had their hours cut, negating the benefits of a higher wage. What could be a solution to ensure businesses, particularly small ones, can handle this increase in labor costs?

 @9FJ9LHD from Florida  disagreed…3yrs3Y

Minimum wage should honestly be higher, most people can’t survive on what it is now imagine lowering it, the amount of people who will go homeless and in debt would be overwhelming.

 @9FLK7MFIndependent from Indiana  disagreed…3yrs3Y

Employers and companies will take all the profit away from the working class and destroy the lower half of the economy.

 @9FBCYXX from Ohio  disagreed…3yrs3Y

What? You don't think there should be a minimum wadge? Will then we will have more people sleeping on the streets because business will go to the lowest amount possible.

 @9GLCV7K from Wisconsin  disagreed…3yrs3Y

All wage standards shouldn’t be eliminated, but the minimum wage standards should be raised. Considering how society fluctuates and the amount of inflation we encounter, the minimum wage that we have is not enough to supply nor live comfortably in todays society.

 @9GMR68MPeace and Freedom from Michigan  disagreed…3yrs3Y

Some people cannot afford to keep up with their businesses or afford to keep their homes because the minimum wage is too low compared to the amount of taxes the government requires us to pay. Some have children who need to eat, or large medical bills without their jobs offering medical support.

 @9GJNLH6 from California  disagreed…3yrs3Y

Minimum wage workers often work way harder for their money than higher waged workers. Therefor minimum wage should be wage.

 @9GGGQQ3Democrat from Hawaii  disagreed…3yrs3Y

the government should raise the federal minimum wage so that people live better, happier, more stress free lives.

 @9GKMHL2disagreed…3yrs3Y

The minimum wage is too low currently and if we increase It, the homelessness rate might drop significantly.

 @9GBR2RR from Ohio  disagreed…3yrs3Y

How will you eat, get shelter, feed kids, watch a movie, bath yourself, everything you take for granted now will be gone

 @9GHDBX8Republican from Tennessee  disagreed…3yrs3Y

I think that it should be raised due to COVID, there was been an inflammation in everything it is hard to live off of the minimum wage so i think it should be raised.

 @9GNFFRH from Montana  disagreed…3yrs3Y

We should have a Minimum Wage because if we don't have a baseline for all businesses to follow, no one will be able to survive, employers like Amazon would cut costs as much as possible.

 @9GJKWZX from Georgia  disagreed…3yrs3Y

Businesses would take advantage of this, giving their workers pay that make the standard of living unreasonable.

 @9GNKMFV from Texas  disagreed…3yrs3Y

If we raise minimum wage, people will be able to buy goods and services, which will lead to more money circulating in the economy

 @9GN8BWJDemocrat from Missouri  disagreed…3yrs3Y

If all wage standards are eliminated, it gives corporations the opportunity to use employees without paying them fairly. Federal minimum wage is already too low to actually live on, and eliminating wage standards would let it go lower in some places.

 @B8DRJNS from Pennsylvania  disagreed…6mos6MO

I think the wage standards should be increased since the cost of everyday needs and essentials are going up every day, and people fight to stay afloat.

 @B7GKNMT from South Carolina  disagreed…8mos8MO

People need enough money to support a family and sometimes even themselves and minimum wage is almost never enough.

 @B79FJJT from South Carolina  disagreed…8mos8MO

Without wage standards, workers risk being underpaid, while a minimum wage ensures fair pay and basic protection.

 @B9H2YM7 from Minnesota  disagreed…4mos4MO

We should keep the all wage standards because certain jobs are more riskier compared to more smaller jobs causing them to be more higher paying comapred to the rest

 @B9D6S5PSocialist from New Jersey  disagreed…4mos4MO

No wage standards is what had labor unions start in the first place, and we have only got this far through the blood of the people who passed the legislation and fought for our rights. No wage standards would instantly lead to the abuse of the working class.

 @B8WV3F2Peace and Freedom from Texas  disagreed…5mos5MO

The world is too expensive for us to not be given more money on our paychecks. It is not a human right if you are forced onto the street because of someone elses selfishness over money.

 @B8D3K4Hdisagreed…6mos6MO

I would say we need to keep and raise wage standards, ensuring everyone has a comfortable life and can actually live.

 @9FMNS5ZJustice party member from Illinois  disagreed…3yrs3Y

employers are just going to underpay illegal immigrants so they're able to get more profit from their business.

 @B9F4RPS from California  disagreed…4mos4MO

Eliminating wage standards would allow employers to pay extremely low wages, increasing worker exploitation and poverty. Minimum wage laws exist to set a basic floor so full-time workers can earn enough to meet essential needs and avoid relying on public assistance.

 @9F6RF8Gdisagreed…3yrs3Y

It should stay since it ensures that people are at least getting paid and sets a borderline for younger workers

 @9FNK32Xdisagreed…3yrs3Y

the minimum wage standard should be raised because maybe the parents of a child are working a second job to support their children there for minimum wage should be raised

 @9F7YPBQ from Wyoming  disagreed…3yrs3Y

Everything is so expensive in todays world, we need to increase the minimum wage to keep up with it. Buying a home is considered a luxury nowadays.

 @9FMTZXY from West Virginia  disagreed…3yrs3Y

Without regulations, many companies would immediately drop their wages because they can and people would immediately fall into poverty.

 @9GPGLS2disagreed…3yrs3Y

The number of dollars doesn't matter. The value of dollars does. The real minimum wage is $0. So, by getting rid of the minimum wage, we would have the market adjust naturally to the value in which our work is actually valued under the real minimum wage.

 @B9RVZRT  from California  disagreed…4mos4MO

Wage standards are important so everybody can live a happy life. We are guaranteed the rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

 @9FPJ3G4 from Pennsylvania  disagreed…3yrs3Y

If regulations on corporations like minimum wage weren’t applied they would immediately institute the wage amount that maximizes the shareholders profits which would inevitably be very low wages.

 @B976N8M  from Tennessee  disagreed…5mos5MO

I think that would be a horrible idea because companies would start to pay their workers less due to no minimum wage

 @9FPNZQPRepublican from North Carolina  disagreed…3yrs3Y

If wage standards were set, employers would be able to set their own prices they pay, which could lead to more financial situations for workers with greedy or stingy employers who try to keep as much money to themself as possible.

 @9GGSR9G from Virginia  disagreed…3yrs3Y

You could increase minimum wage to be 15 or 20 and it would still be an awful living standard. Companies are basically renting a human brain and body for $7.25 an hour and that's nothing.

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