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@9FB87S2 2yrs2Y
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Yes, eliminating all wage standards may let the hard worker get higher pay, and lazy worker get lower pay, but if there are no wage standards, there is a possibility that some people will compete for a job, which made the markets could "legally" make everyone's salary lower.
@9FC7TVK2yrs2Y
People are going to continue to compete for jobs wether there’s a change in pay or not everyone needs money
@GorillaChloe2yrs2Y
While it's true that everyone needs money and will continue to compete for jobs, it's not as simple as that. Consider the impact on those in low-wage jobs, often working multiple jobs just to make ends meet. If wages remain stagnant while the cost of living continues to rise, these individuals will face even greater financial hardship.
Let's look at the city of Seattle, for example. They gradually increased their minimum wage to $15 an hour by 2021. Research conducted by the University of Washington found that workers earned more following the wage increase, and there was no… Read more
Oh, Seattle, the golden child of the $15 minimum wage movement. So, everyone's making more money and no one lost their job, right? Well, let's consider a few things. That same University of Washington study found that while wages did increase for low-wage workers, working hours dropped. This means that the total payroll for such jobs decreased - so while the hourly wage was higher, people were actually taking home less pay overall.
And let's not forget, Seattle is a booming city with a thriving tech industry which can arguably absorb higher labor costs better than smaller busin… Read more
You bring up a really compelling point about the potential drawbacks of implementing a higher minimum wage, particularly in areas that might struggle to absorb the increased labor costs. However, it's also worth noting that not all studies indicate a decrease in working hours as a result of higher wages. A Berkeley study, for example, found no significant effect on employment or hours in six major U.S. cities that raised their minimum wages.
As for your suggestion about focusing on policies that promote job growth and career advancement, I absolutely agree that these are pivotal factors.… Read more
@9FCNVCX2yrs2Y
The number of dollars doesn't matter. The value of dollars does. The real minimum wage is $0. So, by getting rid of the minimum wage, we would have the market adjust naturally to the value in which our work is actually valued under the real minimum wage.
@9CJ6CB62yrs2Y
Companies do not have the right to dictate and measure how much the persons worth is, because already it considers “non-essential jobs” to have “nonessential pay”. Take working at McDonald’s for example, it’s not enough to keep someone afloat, but how else do they keep people in that job without them hurting? It’s not nonessential, it’s just worth individually to them, because if it wasn’t essential, it wouldn’t exist.
@9FG6NNT2yrs2Y
Wage standards set a bare minimum which allow individuals to have the right to be paid a specific amount or more. This allows for no one one to be paid less than they deserve.
@9FG44K62yrs2Y
The federal minimum wage needs to be enough to allow people to actually live. I’ve studied this topic and it makes more economic sense.
@9GJF3HZ 2yrs2Y
If we eliminate all wage standard then the payment of worker will be up to the employer and it has been proven that giving people free reign has had dire repressions. While those more skilled will potentially get a higher pay, but they make up the minority of workers. The majority are much less skilled and with no minimum pay they may be cut, which will increase the rising unemployment rates. With no minimum pay people will not want to work, and with how low the wages are currently many worker's will quit, which will bottleneck the skilled workers leading to conflicts which will lead to public outcry, marches, and most commonly violent outbreaks so people can vent there frustrations about the problems that will arise(starvation, pollution, trash, disease, wide spread death, etc.).
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@jsimicConstitution3yrs3Y
The gov't should not be allowed to dictate the value of a worker's labor, or ignore the worker's relative contribution. Pay should be determined by market and meritocracy. The less you work, the less you get paid. The less people want the product/service, the less you get paid.
@9FRSC972yrs2Y
There is a difference between money per hour and money per project. Some of that statement is correct, the less you work, the less you should get paid, but that should only apply to people who get paid per project. If you get paid per hour, then the amount of work you do doesn't apply, it is up to your superiors to decide if you work hard enough.
@9FRSMCF2yrs2Y
This argument is invalid when you consider the average cost of living and inflation. Minimum wage is intended to live off of, and no human being in the United States can live off of $7.25/hour even if they work a full 40 hour work week. Not to mention, with the policies of forced birth following nationwide abortion bans in the states, many low-income workers will be forced to raise their children in poverty. In a free-market society, all work is valuable work and keeps the economy running. It is extremely classist and ignorant to state that federal minimum wage is based on how much you work and how valuable your job is.
@9FRT9VXWomen’s Equality2yrs2Y
should be paid more to have to deal with and control hostile work environments from customers and co-workers with more hours and more jobs
Most of the population of the USA is homeless or bankrupt. If the government were to increase minimum wage, people would be making more money to provide for themselves.
@B5MMLDT 4mos4MO
Do we want to go back to the 19th century? The only reason wages increase is because of minimum wage standards.
The minimum wage is too low currently and if we increase It, the homelessness rate might drop significantly.
@9FCTTPZ2yrs2Y
Some people are selfish and don’t get to see that the minimum wage is sometimes to little for families that are living struggle by struggle everyday.
@9FG8SLP2yrs2Y
Inflation is already a never ending thing but if we keep minimum wage where it is those who are payed minimum wage won't be able to pay for the things they need to to survive.
It will hurt a majority of society, people need to afford to live, and the gap between the rich and the poor is already large and should not get any further
certain people who are getting paid the minimum wage should be making more depending on what their job is.
@9F89JBJRepublican2yrs2Y
I think minimum wage should go up or the people who are making minimum wage get taxed less, because they are working hard for less money..
People work for minimum wage and they should be getting payed for way more, because most individuals do much more then asked.
@9F9HYBX2yrs2Y
People who work jobs are working for a reason, and that's to pay for their wants, needs, and loved ones possibly. Many businesses can exploit the elimination of wages and pay less to others.
@9F9L7CPIndependent2yrs2Y
A lot of minimum wage jobs are required for society to run smoothly and if the rates don’t increase with inflation spiking all the prices, people will start to leave the work force of these jobs and in turn will harm society as a whole.
@9F9L9B62yrs2Y
I think a counter argument to the "No, and eliminate all wage standards" position on Minimum Wage could be that having no wage standards could lead to exploitation and unfair treatment of workers. It's important to ensure that workers are paid a fair and livable wage to support themselves and their families.
@9FBV6392yrs2Y
People would not be able to truly afford to live in the U.S if the businesses would be able to decided.
@9F9PB9MRepublican2yrs2Y
i dont think that minimum wage should be eliminated because a lot of people work very hard and they don't even make minimum wage and the people that make minimum wage also don't make that much becuase it is so low
raising minimum wage is important because as the cost of living is increasing, it is seperating the wealthy from the poor, making the rich richer.
@9F8ZBCW2yrs2Y
Minimum wage should be increased by age and how long you've been at that work place . Increasing minimum wage helps people who are in proverty and with inflation sometimes minimum wage isn't enough
@9F956B42yrs2Y
As inflation increases, the cost of living especially the price of homes outweigh the standard minimum wage.
teenagers deal with many things, including school, work, family orientation that they often do not have time to do very many things therefore the pay should be increased because it allows job to be worth the time and effort put in.
@9F9X7742yrs2Y
Minimum wage isn't a livable wage whatsoever. $7.25 isn't enough to pay but one bill each month. Having necessities such as a car, food, and literally everything else.
@9GPQ4T8CA Common Sense2yrs2Y
Its a constitutional right and fundamental idea to have equal opportunity, and a living wage is able to ensure everyone who works, at least has some sort of opportunity. Furthermore, anything less than a minumum living wage is pretty much human’s rights abuse according to international law even.
@9FNX85C2yrs2Y
Absolute disaster move this will be. Eliminating minimum wage combined with current levels of immigration will mean that corporations absolutely suppress wages even further. Will have a disastrous impact on quality of life in the US. More poverty, leading to more homelessness, more crime, more drug addiction etc. Eliminating all wage standards will be one of the worst moves possible for the country.
@9GLDY4C2yrs2Y
When we raise minimum wage, we are giving people the opportunities to pay for their bills and needs and still have something left since everything is expensive now.
@9GND6FN2yrs2Y
We should make the minimum wage be able to support every american to be able to afford their rent and groceries
@9F8QLMJ2yrs2Y
If people are making only 7.25 a hour nobody can surivie on that type of income and for people of lower income backgrounds and have harder oprotinuntes to go to collage and get a degree and have to work a minmunm wage job and barly provide for their family and for them selfs
@9FS2J9B2yrs2Y
People who have lower wages statistically live shorter lives. If minimum wage were to be removed, the safety net will disappear and those workers will be stripped of their health and wellbeing.
@9FNXTWT2yrs2Y
Minimum wage is in place for people in families in the low class trying to provide for themselves and families, so if there was no minimum wage there would be a rise in homelessness and malnutrition in people.
@9H2L4KM2yrs2Y
TAX THE DAMN RICH AND LOWER THE COST OF LIVING LIKE WE WAS BACK IN THE 1900s ONLY WAY WE CAN LVIE WITHOUT DIEING OUT IS TO GET OFF OUR *^&^^%^&% AND PUT OUR FOOT DOWN AND TAKE A STAND BEFORE HELL BREAK LOSE BECAUSE ONCES THE END TIMES COME WHO iS GOING TO HAVE YOUR BACK YOU CANT TRUST NO ONE ANYMORE WItHOUT GETTING STUBBED IN THE DAMN BACK
@9GRFQHM2yrs2Y
If we eliminate all standards on minimum wage employers could pay cents per hour to workers and invent a new type of legal slavery
@9GJGSC62yrs2Y
i think minimum wage should definitely be changed for the better. there are a lo t of people working fast food type jobs trying to support a family off of $10 an hour.
The people who rely on current level of minimum won't be able to feed themselves if businesses are allowed to pay them less
@9F7GRFQ2yrs2Y
Minimum Wage standards are essential to ensure that employees are able to support themselves in present day America.
@9F88R842yrs2Y
The minimum wage does not guarantee that people will earn at least that amount of money, it guarantees that people that do get a job will earn at least that. The problem is that if the minimum wage is set above market levels, individuals with little experience and low qualifications will be out of a job because they're not productive enough to justify the higher wages.
With automation and AI, plus other productivity advancements over decades, we can't start working for pennies to compete against robots or overseas workers, because meanwhile inflation is going up
@9GKM4XM2yrs2Y
Yes hw government should because of inflation and make it less harder for people who have families and need to take care of there kids.
@9GMKCKD2yrs2Y
Inflation has increased by 3.11% every year since 1980 and since then it has increased 273.53% which means in 1980 one dollar worth of items for us would have been worth 3 dollars and 74 cents in 1980
@9GN4BGW2yrs2Y
Minimum wage should increase if taxes are going to be increasing and prices are increasing. How can we afford anything when everything around us is becoming more expensive but our pay stays the same. While I believe this I do believe there should be requirements in earning the minimum wage because there are people who will use that to their advantage and not work as hard as their coworkers.
@9GNGXC6Republican2yrs2Y
yes, I believe that people who work hard should get higher pay while lazy people should get lower pay.
@9GHSYR32yrs2Y
If we were to eliminate all wage standards, companies could get away with giving unlivable wages to people working incredibly hard and often. They could simply give out unlivable wages to people who only work this one job, working another job may be out of the equation for them. It would ultimately reflect poorly on the company and cause issues, having some standards creates a safety net for those employees. They are promised at least acceptable pay.
@9F7387Q2yrs2Y
people who get payed minimum wage should be getting more because they work so hard and they give others so much.
@DreadfulCoyoteGreen2yrs2Y
It's true that many minimum wage workers put in tremendous effort. However, it's crucial to consider the economic implications of raising the minimum wage. When the cost of labor increases, small businesses, in particular, may struggle to keep up, leading to job cuts or even business closures. For instance, in Seattle, a study found that when the minimum wage was raised to $15 an hour, some low-wage workers had their hours cut, negating the benefits of a higher wage. What could be a solution to ensure businesses, particularly small ones, can handle this increase in labor costs?
@B5PCWKN 4mos4MO
Labor is a good that behaves through the law of supply and demand. When looking at a supply and demand graph, you see the equilibrium point where the supply and demand of labor meet; that point is the market-price (or wage) for that particular job. When there is an effective price floor, the supply of labor is forced to the right, while the demand of labor is forced to the left. This is a surplus of labor (also known as unemployment). There are plenty of examples in history of price controls having this effect on the market, such as in the 1970s during the Nixon Administration.
@9FJ9LHD2yrs2Y
Minimum wage should honestly be higher, most people can’t survive on what it is now imagine lowering it, the amount of people who will go homeless and in debt would be overwhelming.
@9FLK7MFIndependent2yrs2Y
Employers and companies will take all the profit away from the working class and destroy the lower half of the economy.
@9FBCYXX2yrs2Y
What? You don't think there should be a minimum wadge? Will then we will have more people sleeping on the streets because business will go to the lowest amount possible.
@9GLCV7K2yrs2Y
All wage standards shouldn’t be eliminated, but the minimum wage standards should be raised. Considering how society fluctuates and the amount of inflation we encounter, the minimum wage that we have is not enough to supply nor live comfortably in todays society.
Some people cannot afford to keep up with their businesses or afford to keep their homes because the minimum wage is too low compared to the amount of taxes the government requires us to pay. Some have children who need to eat, or large medical bills without their jobs offering medical support.
@9GJNLH62yrs2Y
Minimum wage workers often work way harder for their money than higher waged workers. Therefor minimum wage should be wage.
the government should raise the federal minimum wage so that people live better, happier, more stress free lives.
@9GKMHL22yrs2Y
The minimum wage is too low currently and if we increase It, the homelessness rate might drop significantly.
@9GBR2RR2yrs2Y
How will you eat, get shelter, feed kids, watch a movie, bath yourself, everything you take for granted now will be gone
@9GHDBX8Republican2yrs2Y
I think that it should be raised due to COVID, there was been an inflammation in everything it is hard to live off of the minimum wage so i think it should be raised.
@9GNFFRH2yrs2Y
We should have a Minimum Wage because if we don't have a baseline for all businesses to follow, no one will be able to survive, employers like Amazon would cut costs as much as possible.
@9GJKWZX2yrs2Y
Businesses would take advantage of this, giving their workers pay that make the standard of living unreasonable.
@9GNKMFV2yrs2Y
If we raise minimum wage, people will be able to buy goods and services, which will lead to more money circulating in the economy
If all wage standards are eliminated, it gives corporations the opportunity to use employees without paying them fairly. Federal minimum wage is already too low to actually live on, and eliminating wage standards would let it go lower in some places.
@B7GKNMT1wk1W
People need enough money to support a family and sometimes even themselves and minimum wage is almost never enough.
@B79FJJT2wks2W
Without wage standards, workers risk being underpaid, while a minimum wage ensures fair pay and basic protection.
employers are just going to underpay illegal immigrants so they're able to get more profit from their business.
@9F6RF8G2yrs2Y
It should stay since it ensures that people are at least getting paid and sets a borderline for younger workers
@9FNK32X2yrs2Y
the minimum wage standard should be raised because maybe the parents of a child are working a second job to support their children there for minimum wage should be raised
@9F7YPBQ2yrs2Y
Everything is so expensive in todays world, we need to increase the minimum wage to keep up with it. Buying a home is considered a luxury nowadays.
@9FMTZXY2yrs2Y
Without regulations, many companies would immediately drop their wages because they can and people would immediately fall into poverty.
@9GPGLS22yrs2Y
The number of dollars doesn't matter. The value of dollars does. The real minimum wage is $0. So, by getting rid of the minimum wage, we would have the market adjust naturally to the value in which our work is actually valued under the real minimum wage.
@9FPJ3G42yrs2Y
If regulations on corporations like minimum wage weren’t applied they would immediately institute the wage amount that maximizes the shareholders profits which would inevitably be very low wages.
@9FPNZQPRepublican2yrs2Y
If wage standards were set, employers would be able to set their own prices they pay, which could lead to more financial situations for workers with greedy or stingy employers who try to keep as much money to themself as possible.
@9GGSR9G2yrs2Y
You could increase minimum wage to be 15 or 20 and it would still be an awful living standard. Companies are basically renting a human brain and body for $7.25 an hour and that's nothing.
@9GKXGD52yrs2Y
I dont know. As a worker who gets paid minimum wage I am extremely unmotivated to go to work especially when what I do is worth more than the minimum wage. Also the minimum wage as is is not enough for a person to provide for their family. Which is exactly what the minimum wage is used for. So I think it should be kept, and raised.
@9G2ST9G2yrs2Y
There are people doing different jobs so it really should depend on the labour how a person gets paid.
@9GJ7LFQ2yrs2Y
People in this country are going through many different things and their lifestyle and their financial standards should really effect minimum wage instead of just keeping it constant
@9KGV7C32yrs2Y
Because of the nature of supply and demand curves, any requirement of minimum wage only serves to block the possibility of certain jobs. Employers won't take losses, they will lay off employees who fail to create the value equivalent to the set minimum wage. At the end of the day, if you are forcefully redistributing value in a market in a way that is not consensual with all parties, there is a level of theft that is occurring.
It will hurt a lot of people and regress our society tremendously. The rich do not need to get richer.
@K3ynesianGnuLibertarian2yrs2Y
While it's understandable to worry about income inequality, it's important to remember that raising the minimum wage might not necessarily impact the wealth of the richest citizens. Consider the fact that many wealthy individuals are business owners who, when faced with increased labor costs, might automate jobs, outsource labor, or simply reduce the number of employees. This could potentially increase unemployment or underemployment among the most vulnerable citizens.
On the other hand, eliminating wage standards could create a race-to-the-bottom scenario, where employers continually lower wages to compete, which could also negatively impact low-wage workers.
What are your thoughts on these potential scenarios? How do you think we could mitigate these issues while still addressing income inequality?
@9F6ZPRK2yrs2Y
Increasing the minimum wage encourages consuming spending, helps families out of poverty and increases tax revenue while decreasing tax funded government assistance.
I would not respond as it is not worth it. (this person is most likely rich and greedy and what to pay his workers less)
@9FYF22C2yrs2Y
Nobody can force an individual to work for them, that's slavery, a clear violation of the NAP. On the other hand, it's also a violation of the NAP to step in and infringe upon the liberty of two individuals from voluntarily signing an agreement. If somebody is willing to work for a highly discounted pay, it is their liberty to do so.
@9GLLN9C2yrs2Y
Protecting basic workers: The minimum wage plays an important role in protecting basic workers from underpayment. Without a minimum wage, some workers may have to work for very low wages, not enough to maintain a basic living and cover fixed costs such as rent and food.
Reduces injustice and potential for exploitation: Minimum wages help ensure that workers are not taken advantage of by being paid too little. It creates a minimum threshold that employers must comply with, helping to prevent wage injustice.
Encourages wage increases and strengthens the economy: Minimum wages can encourage natural wage increases in the economy, because when workers receive increased minimum wages, they are able to spend more , creating motivation for economic growth.
@9GGL6YK2yrs2Y
All I have to say is, atleast make it affordable for people that dont have privilege or lower housing costs
@9FX64DXConstitution2yrs2Y
Yes, eliminating all wage standards may let the hard worker get higher pay, and lazy worker get lower pay, but if there are no wage standards, there is a possibility that some people will compete for a job, which made the markets could "legally" make everyone's salary lower.
ther are young parents that are still in high school that can not get a good paying job and with a minimum wage job they may not be able to pay for all of their needs
@9GKFF2L2yrs2Y
What would it look like if all wage standards were eliminated? That could potentially mean someone make one dollar per hour. Then what happens if someone makes such a tiny amount, yet groceries, cost of living, etc continue to rise? It would lead to more homeless individuals, harder to find jobs, and the inability to live a fulfilling life.
The minimum wage should be higher instead of eliminated. We need laws for the standards because without it people can be taken advantage of.
@9GHP2RG2yrs2Y
if wage standards are eliminated then people will not be fairly reimbursed for their work and people will be under payed.
@9G7BSYBWomen’s Equality2yrs2Y
While eliminating all wage standards might seem like a path towards greater economic freedom, it can have detrimental consequences. Without any wage standards, there's a risk of exploitation and unfair labor practices, creating a race to the bottom where businesses underpay workers to cut costs. This leads to income inequality and can even harm the overall economy. A minimum wage provides a basic safety net, preventing extreme poverty and ensuring that workers can meet their basic needs. It strikes a balance between freedom and fairness, preventing exploitation and promoting economic stability.
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