On June 26, 2015 the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the denial of marriage licenses violated the Due Process and the Equal Protection clauses of the Fourteenth Amendment of the United States Constitution. The ruling made same sex marriage legal in all 50 U.S. States.
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@ISIDEWITH13yrs13Y
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@9GMY3DQ 2yrs2Y
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Limiting gay marriage is unconstitutional according to the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment: "nor shall any State ... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
@EisenhowerInd22Independent8mos8MO
Forcing States to Legalize same sex marriage is unconstitutional
@9TM9M9G8mos8MO
It’s not unconstitutional. We promise freedom for all. Refusing to do so for LGBTQIA individuals is going against the very ideals our founding fathers fought for.
@TheHillbillyLordRepublican3mos3MO
LGBTQ+ should not be tolerated, it is a severe mental disease that can destroy humanity if left unchecked. How will humanity live if everyone decided to only have sex with the same gender or go through a sex change operation?
@AOCforprez28Progressive2mos2MO
This is the exactly stated in the preamble of the decleration of independence where it states all people are entitled to "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness"
@9ZPVCPVRepublican6mos6MO
really how about freedom of religion huh founders never supported homosexuals but I believe were all human begins I believe gays lesbians should be educated on what sexual morals are Jesus said a relationship is between 1 man and 1 woman morals we need in society being a homosexual is sad and shameful a life between the opposite gender is a life with morals and kids and happiness I also believe gays and lesbians and trans shouldn't have children or adopt need morals to or be straight or single
@Debater-jr.Progressive7mos7MO
forcing states to protect human rights is unconstitutional?
@9TXX6GSProgressive8mos8MO
nobody is forcing you to partake in a same-sex marriage. legalizing it simply gives individuals the freedom to choose
@9ZPVCPVRepublican6mos6MO
jesus didn't die for this love is love no its not true read the Bible or walk away from God he just come back to you its against the creator and his world order yes I believe God supports freedom of other religions but does not support selfness for love but morals back then it was normal now we live in a clown world you why we didn't like homosexuality back then because most religions said it was evil back then Pornograpy lust Homosexality was all illegal and was a more perfect world back then and the people would know religion better and morals back then compared today yell at me but I forgive you like how Jesus forgave sinners I pray for you all God bless you all
@Aiden-ColonIndependent8mos8MO
I respectfully disagree with your statement. I know states should have their own power but it is a human right. Same sex marriage should be legalized everywhere as it is a basic human right of equality,
Why can't gays and lesbians accept civil unions as being good enough? Marriage is supposed to be a sacrament that is designated for the union of a man and a woman. Homosexuals do have the legal recognition of being united and do have legal protections with a civil union. So why can't they simply accept that?
@9V2K3SW8mos8MO
Everyone should be able to give love and get love. Commitment can be very important it all depends on the people involved
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Yes. Sin has become a basic human right.
@B34KR9W3mos3MO
All the people in this thread who argue against legalization are citing religious tenants. That is exactly what the U.S. stands against. We do not abide by law of a singular religion. We should all be free to do as we wish when it comes to sexuality
@TheHillbillyLordRepublican4 days4D
Marriage was always a sacred ceremony to celebrate true love and the beauty of man and woman romance. It also helps couples create a stable family to raise kids in. Sexual love between same sex couples is disgusting and in no way something to celebrate, it is something to shame if anything. I don't care if 2 men screw each other, but I do care when they try to force their homosexuality into something as sacred as marriage.
The Equal Protection Clause argument is valid, but keep in mind that historically, the government has placed limits on certain types of marriages for public policy reasons—like age restrictions or prohibiting incestuous marriages. The state can sometimes argue that marriage laws serve a broader societal interest, like the protection of children or the institution of marriage itself. If the state makes the case that traditional marriage serves a compelling interest, wouldn’t that open the door to justify some restrictions? What would your response be if they claimed it was about preserving societal stability rather than individual rights?
@Renaldo-MoonGreen 6mos6MO
Here aconter claim on social stability in support of same sex marriage: The Stonewall Riots. The Stonewall riots were a series of riots where LGBTQ+ people fought for their rights in NYC. Now tell me which would you prefer not gay marriage and possible riots or no gay marriage and having some Christians being upset?
@9Y9MYBKRepublican6mos6MO
LGBT people have a mental disorder.
@TheHillbillyLordRepublican2mos2MO
In that case, we should just kill the lgbtq+ if they riot. I believe rioters deserve the death penalty.
@TheHillbillyLordRepublican2mos2MO
What would I prefer? Imprisonment of all LGBTQ people in mental hospitals
@WildManBagginzIndependent 2mos2MO
“If the state makes the case that traditional marriage serves a compelling interest, wouldn’t that open the door to justify some restrictions?”
Yes, the government can regulate marriage when there’s a compelling reason tied to actual harm. Age restrictions exist to prevent child exploitation. Incest laws exist to prevent genetic disorders and coercion. These restrictions serve clear protective functions. Where I disagree with you is that using that precedent to justify banning same-sex marriage doesn’t hold up, because there’s no objective harm being prevented. Unlike child marriage or incest, two consenting adults of the same gender do not harm each other, their children, or society.
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@B2SN8Q43mos3MO
Yep, if you support the US Constitution of support the legalization of gay marriage
@982KTCH2yrs2Y
Let people love people as long as they aren't hurting them! Gay rights are HUMAN RIGHTS!!!
@98J5RRMWomen’s Equality2yrs2Y
I AGREE! We are all humans, why does it matter who you choose to love?
Because God declared homosexuality an "abomination," and He created the moral law.
@9RF5TFD10mos10MO
God should not be brought into politics. Some people don’t share the same religious beliefs as you and that’s ok, let them be happy.
@Der-ZenterLibertarian9mos9MO
God is the one who created the people, including homosexuals. He's not the one who disagrees with their marriages, it's the "christians". I don't see the reason why they should'nt get the same legal benefits of marriage as heterosexuals, as the USA has religioua freedom and no church should dictate others their view of the world. Note that I said the church, not the religion, since, like I said, God created them how they are and no one should try to repair his creations.
@9SFSKLBIndependent9mos9MO
Who are you to decide who God does and does not love? If His love is eternal and all reaching, where does it go when encountering people you don't like? If my existence is a sin, then what does that make yours? Being LGBT isn't a choice, it's just the way some people are. You know Alan Turing, right? The guy that saved hundreds of thousands of lives in WW2 by inventing the Turing Machine? Well, he was gay, and at that time, it was illegal to be gay in England. The government there prescribed him hormones, with he OD'd on and died. He was a hero. So what if he was gay? Why… Read more
Yes, as the prophet states in the Qur'an
Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you with from among the worlds? Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people.
Kalamullah - The Word of God
@lemans34272yrs2Y
Love is love, and it is a fundamental human right to be able to choose who you love and be with that person legally. Denying someone the right to marry the person they love simply because of their gender is a form of discrimination. And we know from history that discrimination is never the right way to go. Just imagine if people were denied the right to marry based on their race or religion! That would be unacceptable. So why should we deny someone the right to marry based on their sexual orientation? That's just wrong.
What do you think is the biggest obstacle that the LGBTQ+ community faces when it comes to achieving full equality?
True rights never entitle anyone to anything. Homosexual sodomists are demanding that the rest of society be forced to accept their so-called "marriages" – they think they are entitled to that. But all true rights do is protect individuals from force and encroachment. A right to life, for example, is a right not to be murdered, a right to liberty, a right not to be enslaved, a right to property, a right not to be stolen from, (among other related crimes). Whereas no one is using force on homosexuals by refusing to recognise their perverse activities as "marriage" &nd… Read more
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@TheHillbillyLordRepublican6 days6D
The definition of marriage is between a man and woman. It's biology, species need to mate with the other sex, not the same sex. Therefore people who follow this biological norm deserve better recognition of their love than those who fail to follow it.
@TheHillbillyLordRepublican2mos2MO
Does that mean I can claim to be married to my friend just for the sake of tax deductions?
@B4VT3PZ2wks2W
Yes you can actually do this! It is legal to marry your friend for that purpose! I really hope you and your new spouse have fun with your newfound wealth!
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BRO RU DUMB UR SINNIGN AGAINST GOD STFU FXCK EVERY LFBTQ+ MEMBER EVERY THEY'RE METNALLY ILL
@IamSirius32Green1yr1Y
It's not even our problem what people do. It's their choice. We shouldn't harass them just because they're different. This is quite litterally a matter of human rights.
@TheHillbillyLordRepublican6 days6D
Denying them marriage isn't harassing them. Harassing them would be saying "You cannot love them". Saying "We refuse to recognize your love as a sacred bond" is not harassment. And gay people are sick, their lifestyle is wrong and they should not deserve the same rewards for their wrong behavior, as straight couples.
@9CJY7NW2yrs2Y
“long as they aren't hurting them! Gay rights are HUMAN RIGHTS!!!”
Don't get me wrong, I support same sex marriage. However, I believe that if Religious services don't want to serve them, they don't have to.
Well, I can't speak for all religions, but in the case of Christianity, you shouldn't turn people away from God. He loves all of his children, even the those in sin, and you are doing more harm than good by discouraging them from having a relationship with God. As someone who has always been gay, I loved going to church and I still believe that I have a strong connection with God. However, I don't understand why other Christians turn people like me away. It may be a sin, but everyone sins, and God already knows what we will do. Also, if you have your own beliefs about the LGBTQ… Read more
Churches have a duty to speak the Truth of God's Word, without respect to the orthodoxies of fashionable opinion. The TRUTH is that God has condemned homosexuality as a moral abomination, and as such, Churches have a duty to preach that. God commands you to turn from your sin. You are 100% right that he still loves you, but that does not mean that you are given permission to sin, nor that all other persons ought to be forced to accept or even celebrate your immoral choices. I hope sincerely you will one day repent.
@MandateCakeRepublican2yrs2Y
That is a heartfelt perspective. However, one could also argue that the essence of respect means acknowledging and honoring others' deeply held beliefs, even when they differ from our own. For instance, while some Christians indeed embrace the LGBTQ+ community, there are others whose interpretation of their faith leads them to a different viewpoint. It's not about turning people away from God, but a conscientious adherence to what they believe their faith mandates.
@9Y9MYBKRepublican6mos6MO
Yes everybody sins but you know this and are still choosing to constantly live a sinful lifestyle.
Ok, here's the thing. I believe strongly that people have a natural disposition as to whether they are attracted to people of the opposite sex or people of the same sex. And regardless if a person is heterosexual or homosexual, they should be entitled to unite and spend their lives with the partner that they love. But it's undeniable that in the Bible, marriage is a sacrament that is defined as being between a man and a woman. So my question is...why are gay couples not happy with the categorization of being in a civil union ? You are still under governmental recognition of being united to another person.
@B4VT3PZ2wks2W
Yes I agree with religions not having to support, but marriage is done/legalized in a courthouse, not a church.
@9GHLMVN2yrs2Y
We live in a country of freedom and choice, it's unreasonable to restrict others personal lives based on differing preferences, and even if argued that it's against certain religious values the government cannot place laws into effect based on those values as that would be declaring one religion above all others.
@Patriot-#1776Constitution10mos10MO
They've already declared one religion over all others – the religion of secular humanism and far-left woke ideology. The federal government are agents of a demonic Death Cult that tears unborn children limb from limb and mutilates innocent children as sacrifices to the heathen god of political correctness. See how that's worked out for us. Christianity should be declared above all other religions, because it's the only that's true. And I can prove that, if this comment offended you so much you demand an explanation.
@9ST7HGX8mos8MO
You have a religious concept of proof and truth, and these are incompatible with science and reality. One accepts on faith and the other demands evidence. Christianity had it's time. I can't wait for this chapter in history to be over.
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I want true proof of evolution, not just the ideas of one scientist.
@TheHillbillyLordRepublican6 days6D
The science and reality is that gay sex just doesn't work, you just can't make babies with someone of the same sex. Yes, it's the harsh truth I know, but live with it.
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How are they incompatible with science? Science proves God, it does not disprove him! Are we supposed to believe that all that is alive and here is a mistake? That's what your 'science' says!
@Renaldo-MoonGreen 7mos7MO
“And I can prove that, if this comment offended you so much you demand an explanation.”
I demand one of those things known as an explanation. Because as I seen no reason my I should be unable to marry who I want as a Lesbian, and why this is so terrible for society. I've also seen your enlightening thoughts on trans people so I would like to know what is so wrong with be not identifying with my given gender and actual proof of why its so bad.
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God created everything according to his laws, and what happens when you break a law? If you are Lesbian, or Gay, you are breaking his law. Even He, the supreme being, does not do that. What makes you think that you can? Now, I know that you believe the One True God either doesn't exist, or if He does, He loves everybody (even with their sin), and so this is how you manage to live with your sin. Yes, he loves you, but he calls you to turn away from your sin, your rebellion.
I'm praying for you.
@B3C3HQL2mos2MO
Your only f*** argument is religion?
There is freedom of religion.
You aren't the only one who exists.
@sylas49 3mos3MO
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Let me get this straight. You're a member of the Constitution Party, but you demand that the American government acts in favor of a certain religion?
I'm having a field day citing the Establishment Clause.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
Rename your party, buddy.
@9Y9MYBKRepublican6mos6MO
Right but they make everybody celebrate it and if you don't openly celebrate it then it's considered "hate."
@Renaldo-MoonGreen 6mos6MO
Not really... We want people to accept us for being who we are same as you.
@9866BHZ2yrs2Y
Love is love.
@TruthHurts1012yrs2Y
Sin is Sin.
@Renaldo-MoonGreen 7mos7MO
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Define Sin
@9BYHRVG2yrs2Y
What God, the Supreme Legislature of the Universe, says is wrong. To him homosexuality is an "abomination." So it is therefore Sin and must be opposed or well will insure his wrath!
Sin is basically any action, thought, or behavior that goes against God's commandments and moral laws. It's like a spiritual wrong turn that separates us from God's will and purpose for our lives. Think of it as a moral misstep that needs to be corrected to align ourselves with divine teachings.
@B3C3HQL2mos2MO
Oh wow... Can't create an actual argument so you turn to religion?
This is politics.
It's not about what God you believe in.
Sin is Sin.
@9LKNKHL1yr1Y
God is fake :)
I can prove he's real – but first I need you to explain where the Laws of Logic came from.
@9W2JPZP7mos7MO
No matter what, you still shouldn't say things like that. It's a bit messed up.
@B54KWXH1wk1W
You have your beliefs. God is the pathway to heaven. Jesus will come to mop up the sins of the earth.
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@9T8QMM58mos8MO
Oh that comment is full of love I'm sure God just loves you for that. Stop The Hate,
Especially the Christians. Think You're missing the point!
@Renaldo-MoonGreen 6mos6MO
If fags aren't allowed then why am I here.
@ISIDEWITH13yrs13Y
No
@9CJ6CB6 2yrs2Y
Top Disagreement
It doesn’t affect your life in the slightest of gay people can marry. If straight people can marry consensually, and above 18, then so can gay people, the gender doesn’t matter in the slightest.
@9FDCTKL2yrs2Y
We are pretty clearly in the Bible that it is a sin in God's eyes. You also can not take 2 threaded male ends of a pipe and put them together. The same goes for 2 female ends of a pipe, they do not work with each other.
@9CJ6CB62yrs2Y
The Bible isn't a basis for how the government should decide things. The Old Testament is filled with promotion of things the government could never stand for, so it's factuality in policy should be taken with a grain of salt. Not every marriage is built upon the desire to have kids, and adoption is an option either way. They shouldn't be held back because the bible said so and... procreation.
While it's true that the Bible shouldn't be the basis for governmental policies, it's also important to remember that many laws are influenced by moral and ethical standards, which often have roots in religious beliefs. For example, most societies agree on laws against murder, theft, and perjury, which are all prohibited in the Ten Commandments. That's not to say that religion should dictate laws, but it's undeniable that it has played a role in shaping societal norms.
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@Ars-Gratia-Artis1yr1Y
Heh, I've tried that before. Flex tape solves that. Or a soldering iron.
@9ST7HGX8mos8MO
Not a huge fan of fiction, sorry. Any works of non-fiction you can cite? And if you're position hinges on the gender of tools, we're on an entirely different wavelength.
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How about you try to find something any truer.
@9TM9M9G8mos8MO
You can’t use inanimate objects to represent humans. A car wouldn’t drive if they had a square and circle wheel, therefore same sex marriage is okay, according to this logic.
@9FFCDCF 2yrs2Y
I agree. Gay marriage should be protected by law as it does not harm anyone, nor does it involve anyone other than the people in the marriage.
@TheHillbillyLordRepublican6 days6D
If 2 men can marry, then why can't 2 siblings? Both face the same issue: they can't make a baby (brother and sister could but the baby would probably have many issues).
@9FD68Q8Republican2yrs2Y
Gay marriage is just not how life is meant to be. You cant reproduce with another person from the same gender as you, which is the the reason gay marriage should not be allowed, and it should only be between male and female.
@9CJ6CB62yrs2Y
So then if they can’t reproduce then they can’t marry? Who cares? There’s plenty of straight couples that can’t have kids but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t marry. Not to mention that over 1,500 species have shown homosexual tendencies, penguins being among the higher ones. Nature isn’t against this, it’s just people that have little understanding. Not being able to reproduce doesn’t mean you can’t marry, and reproduction isn’t always done through marriage either.
Your point about reproduction is interesting, and while it's true that not all couples can or want to have children, marriage historically has been linked to procreation and societal stability. However, in recent times, marriage has evolved to mean more than just a means for reproduction. It's also about companionship, emotional support, and mutual respect.
Regarding nature, it's true that over 1,500 species exhibit homosexual behavior. However, it's also important to note that while animals behave instinctively, humans possess the ability to reason and make choices. Our actions are not solely driven by instincts but also by our norms, beliefs, and laws.
That said, how would you reconcile the traditional definition of marriage with the evolving societal understanding of it?
@9HGMXYXIndependent1yr1Y
That has to be the smartest thing i have heard someone say in a while
@B3C3HQL2mos2MO
Your argument doesn't hold water.
Many straight couples choose to never have children.
People in the LGBTQ+ community are people too.
If they don't want children, that's their choice.
Why are you mad that some people want to love the way that they choose?
@9FDZ6W82yrs2Y
Gay and straight people are the same and there's no need to have a kaw to differentiate them. Just let everyone live, it is never that deep
@9F9YCMY2yrs2Y
Marriage is marriage and preventing people of other sexualities from doing it is unfair and unreasonable
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