In 2024, the United States Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) brought lawsuits against artists and art marketplaces, arguing that artwork should be classified as a security and subject to the same reporting and disclosure standards as financial institutions. Proponents argue that this would provide greater transparency and protect buyers from fraud, ensuring that the art market operates with the same accountability as financial markets. Opponents contend that such regulations are overly burdensome and would stifle creativity, making it nearly impossible for artists to sell their work without facing complex legal hurdles.
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@ISIDEWITH3mos3MO
Yes, but only if the sales price is high enough to justify it as an investment
@B54GKP72mos2MO
The primary purpose of artwork investment contracts should not solely be driven by the sale price justifying it as an investment.
@9SWKQKL10mos10MO
This should be implemented for art exceeding a limit, like $10,000. It should not be applied to small or minor works.
@9SZZZ2T10mos10MO
Yes, but only if the regulations are simple and fair without an undo reporting burden on the artist.
@9SSCMHB10mos10MO
It's their artwork so they should be able to do whatever they want with it and sell it however they want.
@9SXRJP2Republican10mos10MO
Yes, for large volume traders of artwork or high-earning artists where a specific earned income from the works is stated such as $1 million plus.
@9TP3NXB10mos10MO
While some level of reporting and disclosure is important to ensure fairness and prevent exploitation, it should be tailored to the specific context of the art world rather than being identical to the requirements for hedge funds, mutual funds, and public companies.
@9SWFP8X10mos10MO
They should have some form of regulation for reporting and disclosing because artwork is used as a means of money laundering.
@9ZP8SND8mos8MO
They shouldn't be held to the same reporting and disclosure but they should have some form of accountability.
@9T8688D10mos10MO
This should be implemented for art exceeding a limit but it should not be applied to minor works of art.
@9ZNHZNH8mos8MO
Private artist's shouldn't have to follow the regulations, but more public, copyrighted art companies should.
@B3LB29X4mos4MO
Artist should be held to reporting and disclosure requirements when selling their artwork, but not the same requirements hedge funds, mutual funds, and public companies when selling artwork. That is because it would make it much harder for artist to be able to sell their artwork if it was to the same requirements.
@8DHCWV4 8mos8MO
Yes, but place their artwork on a sliding scale of reporting (Only report for Single pieces valued at $40,000 or Collections valued at $250,000)
@9VPBZRR9mos9MO
it should be tailored to the specific context of the art world rather than being identical to the requirements for hedge funds, mutual funds, and public companies
@9X4392G8mos8MO
Hedge funds, mutual funds, and public companies should be held to the same reporting and disclosure requirements as artists.
@9WW3SLP8mos8MO
if they are doing business under a state or local charter, then they should have the same requirements as any other chartered business.
@ISIDEWITH10mos10MO
If buying art became as regulated as buying stocks, would that change your interest or ability to participate in the art market?
@9TSK97R10mos10MO
Potential Increased Interest:
More Transparency: Increased regulation could make the art market more transparent, much like the stock market, which might attract new investors who were previously hesitant. Detailed records of provenance, valuations, and market performance would provide clearer insights into the value and appreciation potential of artworks.
@9TSLVGD10mos10MO
No i would try to invest and interest myself more.
@ISIDEWITH10mos10MO
Do you think treating artwork like stocks or bonds could impact how people appreciate art?
yes, to some extent art work should have some disclosures because often times it could be a cover up for illegal activity
@9TZT2PD10mos10MO
Small businesses should not because in the grand scheme of things it's not really a big deal with them but bigger artists should be held to certain standards.
@B3BZWRZ4mos4MO
Yes, but if the art piece is selling for a large amount of money because of the tax cuts that can come from it when selling to a wealthy person who donated it to gain a tax cut.
@B5XVFLK1wk1W
Money should not exist. If artists can convince others to trade goods and/or services of interest to them in return for their art, then there should be no restraint on that.
@Yaunti2 1wk1W
Yes, if artists are going to create a hierarchical structure for art where only the wealthy can afford their art, they should be forced to disclose
@B5X7NRH2wks2W
No, artists shouldn’t be regulated like hedge funds or corporations. But for very high-value sales, some basic transparency rules (like reporting buyer identity and price) can help prevent financial crimes without limiting creativity or small businesses.
@B5WGQM72wks2W
Are the hedge and mutual funds or public companies held to much? Today’s market makes it seem like they get away with just about anything.
@B5WFK462wks2W
I think selling Art is a form of money laundering, which the rich do all the time. Poor should be able to as well
@B5W5Y6Q2wks2W
No, but Sotheby's and private collectors who use these pieces to shift asset values need to be harassed.
@B5VTVL23wks3W
Only if what they're doing is legal, mostly because of scammers and con-artists trying to launder money through buying/selling art pieces at ridiculous prices.
@B5V55R3 3wks3W
This is a slippery slope, what counts as art? Many view high-end cars as art and an investment. Instead, maybe regulate the transactions themselves to limit fraud, implimenting a gains tax that can not be side stepped using current loopholes or something.
@B5TXNKL3wks3W
No, Artists are not held to the same value. Most times they sell their work for way less than market value because of AI.
@B5TVYGF3wks3W
If art looks beautiful and have meaning, artists (who work hard on their projects) can have equal pay compared to their business counterparts.
@B5RDB5J4wks4W
No, artists can choose to be transparent and they are more likely to attract new clients. If not, then they risk losing clients because they can't trust a scam artist.
@B5NHXMV1mo1MO
Yes, the demand should be the same for everyone. Notwithstanding, this demands should be reduced. The sale of something is not government's business.
@B5N5KVJ1mo1MO
No, but artists should be required to provide a level of proof of authenticity for buyers piece of mind
@B5MKDTV1mo1MO
Artist themselves should not be required to do this; however massive organizations who hoard and steal cultural arts and pieces should be held to the same standard.
@B5L3BRS 2mos2MO
Only if the artwork is being sold at investment-level prices or through financial institutions—everyday creators and independent artists shouldn’t face unnecessary regulation
@B5HMMC62mos2MO
We all know that this has been a vector for Uber wealthy money laundering for a long time. No if regular common people can do the same thing, yes if we can't.
@B5GPPCC2mos2MO
I don't think the government should be able to interfere with personal artist work, but if the painting's worth a lot like a million than maybe.
@B5G3N7F2mos2MO
Somtimes artwork is bought by elites to launder money & the artwork that is normally bought has no meaning what so ever, son it should be regulated to a certain extent & should be invistgated if the artwork exceeds a certain limit of pricing. Artwork that has no meaning to the public eye should be invistgated if bought by wealthy individuals that have a sus background.
@B5FQVHF2mos2MO
Yes, but only if the artist is selling art as their only source of income, and if the legal hurdles are reduced.
They slave their talent to create it, they deserve every penny, as they use a talent they've built and wasn't trained on by government funded situations.
@B5CBJWT2mos2MO
No, artist already struggle enough to make a living. Especially since AI is attempting to replace them.
@B5BYZLN2mos2MO
Generally skeptical of new regulations but supportive of transparency if linked to anti-money laundering)
@B5BFS462mos2MO
There should be some protects with art but mainly in the case of people trying to sell AI as their own work. Real artists should be able to sell their work and not have to jump through legal hurdles to do so.
@B58ZY742mos2MO
No, it's their work and if they need a disclosure agreement that should be used to working on a series with a studio
@B58JJKS2mos2MO
Neither however if it is an investment they should sell at any price but disclosing the price should be required
@B57ZRBT2mos2MO
No, most art is not bought as a security but because the person wants the art itself for itself, and that's the way it should be. Thus it should be treated legally as a product or service rather than an investment.
@B572PLN2mos2MO
No, art is meant to be seen as a way of expression, and it could harm their profits far more than it already is.
@B55NNVT2mos2MO
It isn’t fair especially when most artists are barely able to earn any sort of funds for their work, while companies make more than they need.
@B55GDBBWomen’s Equality2mos2MO
maybe some companies should try selling more artwork cause it's worth lots of money if you try to make your own art
@B54MYN92mos2MO
While transparency and investor protection are important in all markets, the art market's unique characteristics and the nature of artist-buyer transactions make strict financial regulations less suitable.
@B547V6X2mos2MO
Yea I don't really know I would say keep doing your thing and if it gets bad then they should get involved
@B4ZSH382mos2MO
AI is stealing many artists/aspiring artists work. Artist should have freedom to be able to draw without anyone interfering.
@B4ZGNL72mos2MO
No cause artists don't make any money anyway and AI slops gonna put them out of a job within the next 10 years anyway
@B4YZNNLRepublican2mos2MO
No, if they made the artwork and sold it on their own, then they are entitled to the entire compensation
@B4WD6772mos2MO
It should depend on the case and seller in question, yes if they are known for fraudulent transactions but in most cases no, small business owners make far less money than large corporations and are less likely to resort to corruption.
@B4WD5DS2mos2MO
Artwork is not comparable to these things, and I don't believe it is appropriate to hold artists to these standards
@B4VBZQB3mos3MO
Art is art. It shouldn’t be treated like a stock. But if someone is trying to sell it like a stock, that’s where regulation should kick in.
@B4V42QN3mos3MO
Depends; if we are talking about the average street artist that is at your local FIRST FRIDAY event then no, but if we are talking about the other tier of 'art'
like rich ppl using a Monet or Picasso or Rodan for example to avoid taxes (i e art is personal property, but a monet or a Banxie trades as 'micro shares' on trading platforms so it should be held to the same reporting and disclosure. GENERAL RULE; IF YOU BOUGHT AND OWNED THE PIECE BEFORE THE ARTIST WAS SUPER FAMOUS AND IS STILL ALIVE THEN NO-ART HAS AN APPRECIATION IN VALUE. IF THE ART IS LONG SINCE FAMOUS AND THE ARTIST LONG DEAD OR A MUSEUM IS INTERESTED THAN YES REPORT AND DISCLOSE
@B4TV4PS3mos3MO
I believe its the buyers choice whether they want to risk buying this that are fraud as many apps online have many things people sell online that are different to what they were shown.
@B4SZ8HZPeace and Freedom3mos3MO
Yes, because artists kind of have their own company, which is them, they are investing in themselves and are making a profit, so it would only be fair to do this.
@B4QFGQ73mos3MO
If someone is willing to pay the price that is set, that is the value of the artwork. Cases of potential fraud should be investigated but blanket legislation inhibits the rights of two willing parties
@B4P36GC3mos3MO
Yes, but the funds should be fair as to their artwork. If it is a smaller piece verses a larger piece, the prices should reflect this difference
@B4N8FKM3mos3MO
Yes - The Person Selling Artworks have a 'Cost' of Obtaining/Creating the Artwork. The Difference between that Cost and the Selling Price should be treated as Taxable Income.
As an Artist myself. I think the hard work put into the artwork artist make on a daily basis to their art should be protected a bit more. Not too much but just a bit more.
@B4LHG3G3mos3MO
If they have a building then yes, but if there just selling their art freely, they shouldn't have to deal with these funds.
@B4LF4RL3mos3MO
No, under certain circumstances of course. As an artist who is making well above 6 figures a year should be held to those requirements versus some low profile artist who doesn't even break 20k in a year. And to tackle fraud, in a sense you get what you pay for
@B4L9BHD3mos3MO
The ability to decreases fraud work is commendable however, I feel that the Legal hurdles for people to actually get their artwork out is a big issue that can discourage their creativity.
@B4KWZRZ3mos3MO
small artists should not have this applied to but I can see it being applied to bigger artists with big names
@9ZTQW4V 3mos3MO
No, everyday artists and creators should not face burdensome regulations, but high-value art transactions used for investment purposes should be subject to reasonable transparency measures to prevent money laundering and fraud.
@B4KLCSB3mos3MO
I don't really know to much about the issue but artists should be able to do want with their artwork. Their income that they make should be reported during tax season
@B4K89SP3mos3MO
depends if they are 26 and live and LA and animate for disney or if they paint a canvas one color and sell it for 50 thousand
@B4JS9KJ3mos3MO
No, unless the art in question is being sold for greater than $5,000,000, at which point the anti-money laundering considerations are more important
@B4J52X23mos3MO
An individual should never be required to meet same criteria of that of a company/ organization. With that said I’m not knowledgeable in this area.
@B4HXVRF3mos3MO
No, artists are often independent, freelance workers, and therefore they should be free from excessive government regulations.
@B4HX6643mos3MO
Yes, everyone should be held to the same standards. No, there should not be any reporting and disclosure requirements for financial firms nor for art firms.
@B4HM6ZY3mos3MO
They should be charged taxes on all the money they recive to put atleast 5% of the money the make into the community
@B4G9PW43mos3MO
I'd say yes since it can show the many different cultures the country has, cave paintings, cultural art, all of that.
Yes, after a certain amount of income they could get but if its below than its optional not mandatory.
@B4FCJW4Republican3mos3MO
No, for the sake of privacy, weak government, checks and balances, federalism, freedom, and capitalism.
@B4DXGMQ3mos3MO
I believe this should apply for more expensive art pieces, but not apply for people turning their hobbies into small side hustles.
@B4DWP5P3mos3MO
No there work is there’s the tag the price if somebody wants it then that can pay that much for it otherwise it’s there business
@B4DRY3X3mos3MO
no because they're property is a different category, which would make it easier to handle purchasing prices.
@B4DQCGN 3mos3MO
Depending on artist interest, as the the artist should claim it their if it their however if a corporation is using such artist it can be used for public or corporate
@B4D3NRBProgressive3mos3MO
Yes, but only for NFT artists. NFTs are securities and should be held to the same regulatory standards as other securities.
@B4CTNJ43mos3MO
This could be a Yes and a No Artists who may be just starting out small may have trouble publishing while it may be a better to apply this to bigger well known artists.
@B4CSJFP3mos3MO
No artists should not be held to the same reporting and disclosure requirements such as hedge funds, mutual funds, and public companies when selling their artwork because it makes it 10 times more difficult to be creative and worry about complex legal hurdles that the government requires to sell their artwork.
@B4CSCQ2Independent3mos3MO
No, artists are often freelance workers and therefore they shouldn’t have to undergo the same regulations. Big companies have to endure.
@B4CRYTK3mos3MO
Whilst I think both sides pose a great point, artists creativity shouldn't be limited. If it makes it harder for artists to sell their work, no they shouldn't be held to the same standards.
@B4C575S3mos3MO
Be lenient on what they do with their stuff, but do not be too heavy on them too. Maybe tax them more, just for fun.
@B4BZS553mos3MO
This is a difficult thing. I'm not knowledgeable in this subject, but maybe in certain cases, like if it's a valuable painting, and would be something worth a large sum of money, such as a million dollars. Minor works and commissions that are small, like $100, should not have to deal with those hurdles.
Deleted3mos3MO
Yes, and stop calling sloppy pieces such as “banana taped to wall” as art, and these should not be selling for millions
@B49HXTMRepublican3mos3MO
They should have to report to the government but not disclose their information to the general public.
@B49GW3T3mos3MO
Artist should be allowed to have control of their work and how it is sold, transferred and used after creation.
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