Currently, police unions are allowed to collectively bargain with government officials over the methods used to hold police officers accountable for misconduct. Proponents argue that collective bargaining stands in the way of accountability. Opponents of limiting collective bargaining argue that more intense criticism of police will disincentivize officers from doing their jobs resulting in crime rates going up.
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@ISIDEWITH4yrs4Y
Yes, and abolish police unions
@ISIDEWITH4yrs4Y
Yes, and eliminate collective bargaining for police unions
Many gay police men have helped me get shelter and resources and wouldn't arrest me of I hit toxic straight people in the homes that I live in Orlando understanding that those heterosexuals were toxic enough to bully me for my gay identity and in my belief LGBTQ police unions need to form and collective bargain against cases conservative heterosexual discriminators file against gay or transgender identities in areas of housing, education, and employment because many LGBTQ protections against discrimination and intolerance were over turned since Donald Trump held office. I don't sup… Read more
@SpaceManBob4mos4MO
All such officers should be fired and you should be jailed
LGBTQ are all sick people that should be 1. getting severe therapy 2. stripped of all protections, or 3. all put in mental hospitals
@8PFKXVS4yrs4Y
Yes; each side must be heard as much as the other, both having similar or equal power in the court.
Renegotiate contracts to give higher salaries and more benefits but less immunity from prosecution and stricter training and discipline.
@96DPFJ33yrs3Y
@85SVNQVLibertarian4yrs4Y
Yes, and abolish police unions
@8YFBRCG3yrs3Y
Yes, and abolish all public unions
@8PFMY4C4yrs4Y
yes, unions representing public sector jobs should not be able to bargain for the taxpayer's money unless the taxpayer votes on it
@8PFGPPL4yrs4Y
Yes and No. Demilitarized our police but still find a good amount to protect our citizens regardless of race and gender.
@8QMKD3FIndependent4yrs4Y
Police unions should not be allowed to collectively bargin
@753673RProgressive4yrs4Y
“unions should not be allowed to collectively bargin”
Unions, whether for police or otherwise, should be allowed to collectively bargain. If you make an exception for one group, you'd have to restrict all. Collective bargaining is the main function of labor unions.
@9TNCM458mos8MO
Maybe so, but government workers (who are supposed to work for the people and the nation) should not be able to abuse their position of importance by having unions in the first place.
@9F42V2J2yrs2Y
I don't have enough information to form an opinion.
@9F9YKKQ2yrs2Y
No, this will disincentivize officers from doing their jobs
@93834YC3yrs3Y
Yes, and eliminate all public sector unions
@8R5TNVM4yrs4Y
Yes, and abolish public sector unions
@8PRPQJF4yrs4Y
Yes, and abolish all public sector unions
@9D4XNST2yrs2Y
Yes, and abolish Police Unions. Unions exist to give civilians rights against corporate entities that try to harm them and remove their rights. Government Entities are not Corporations, and thus should not have Unions. They are governed by the Constitution, and should not have the abilities to get around that by using Unions.
@9S2PG439mos9MO
I am in between on this, police officers need to be held accountable whenever they get out of line or conduct practices that result in harm or death of suspect. But it is important to allow police officers the ability to defend themselves in these misconduct Cases otherwise, people will be incentivized to join the police force because they feel that they will be completely at the mercy of their superiors and the public defenders office, which could have an hostile view to the police
@9DZC43NRepublican 2yrs2Y
No, but I do believe that the punishments for intentional misconduct should be increased.
@9F35KBP2yrs2Y
Yes, and this goes for all unions in cases of misconduct
Yes, and abolish the police
@8QQ5HQ34yrs4Y
Yes, and abolish all public sector unions.
@8W7VN3D4yrs4Y
No, but it should not be available to officers who have received another accusation of misconduct within a 2 year period, and the process for making a misconduct accusation should be online, with instructions posted on the door of each station and the bumper of each marked police vehicle.
@8SZQZBV4yrs4Y
yes and abolish all unions
@96DRTG33yrs3Y
@98HQZQY2yrs2Y
No, and abolish the police.
@9BC46HP2yrs2Y
Yes, and abolish police unions and the police
Yes, police unions' collective bargaining power should only apply to salaries and benefits for police officers
Cases involving misconduct should be investigated by a neutral, third-party government agency that does not have incentives to either find or not find misconduct.
@ISIDEWITH8mos8MO
In your opinion, what is the best way to ensure both the effectiveness of police and their accountability to the public?
@9TR9WJ2Republican8mos8MO
In my opinion the best way to ensure both the effectiveness of police and their accountability tp the public would to be giving them the right to be able to collectively bargain with the government, then give the public a vote after they chose some ways in which they would be held accountable for their misconduct.
@9BV9NFD2yrs2Y
Not enough knowledge on the topic.
@936SGVF3yrs3Y
I don’t understand what this means.
@8YPG4Z43yrs3Y
Yes but only in extreme situations
@8R9N4QL4yrs4Y
Abolish all public sector unions
allow unions to collectively bargain, but only for matters of pay and benefits, not terminations or misconduct cases
@B4TGQT53wks3W
Yes, by ending qualified immunity completely, they should be held to a higher standard than the general public.
@B4S4QRZ3wks3W
Yes, insofar as they should not be able to strike or impede the outcome of a police misconduct investigation.
@B4P4BWY4wks4W
Yes, and additional investigations beyond an internal investigation need to be done to avoid corruption
@B4KLCSB1mo1MO
no policing is a high stress job and there are many life threatening scenarios that make it so that a police officers judgement may be clouded
@B4HRKH31mo1MO
If they misconduct was avoidable on the officers end or departments end they should be held accountable, however if it was unavoidable exceptions can be made.
@B4FCJW4Republican1mo1MO
No, for the sake of law and order, the police, the first responders, capitalism, freedom, federalism, weak government, and checks and balances.
@B4D6KHP1mo1MO
No, for the sake of low unemployment, the police, law and order, freedom, capitalism, federalism, weak government, and check and balances.
@B4B2P7Q1mo1MO
If misconduct is to be deemed costly/violent in nature, if ordered by a judge, the unions can not step in.
@B48ZGNN1mo1MO
To an extent, because the police union exists primarily for collective bargaining purposes. Nonetheless, an accused officer has the right to a competent defense.
@B48CGPP1mo1MO
Police unions do not practice solidarity with other unions, and should be barred from labor federations, but should have collective bargaining rights.
@B45BGT22mos2MO
No, union-busting is unconstitutional and the government should have no right to intervene on state or city matters.
@B42KFGT2mos2MO
Yes, in cases if the officer in question has a terrible record, disabled or manipulated body cam footage, or has a history of engaging in conduct unbecoming an officer
@B3ZYM5D2mos2MO
No, I do not! First of all, this mocks capitalism, freedom, weak government, checks and balances, and federalism by doing this! Second of all, we need the police! We need to preserve law and order to keep everyone safe!
@B3ZJLJZ2mos2MO
There should not be a limit for police unions collective bargaining power, but limiting certain rights.
No, This is a matter of underdeveloped hires though. Develop those hired in the proper manner and you do not need collective bargaining. Accountability is necessary to keep other members in check. With no consequences, there is no incentive to follow the rules.
@B3YNHTN2mos2MO
I am unsure what collective bargaining is, however, when an officer is suspected of misconduct, they should be suspended from duty and not permitted on the property until the review or investigation is completed.
@B3X26PD2mos2MO
Any people, even police, should have the right to unionize. However, it should only be limited to cases where their collective bargaining power can be used in scenarios where they would benefit everybody, such as removing corrupt higher ups.
@B3VGV2T 2mos2MO
Whether to limit police unions' collective bargaining power depends on a number of factors, including the potential consequences of doing so.
Arguments for limiting power
Police accountability
Some argue that police unions block accountability by:
Limiting officer interrogations
Banning civilian oversight
Indemnifying officers in civil suits
Limiting internal investigations
Creating protections that impede efforts to increase accountability
Police violence
Some studies suggest that collective bargaining agreements are linked to police violence against citizens.
Conflicts of… Read more
@B3TJ2SZ2mos2MO
I believe it is important to have the bargaining powers for good cops that may have had a 1 time slip up but for bad cops it should not be aloud especially if they are a racist or are clearly not a good person.
@B3QG49LProgressive2mos2MO
Yes, there should be no bargaining or pressure from the group regarding the outcome of a misconduct case.
@B3Q2S6H2mos2MO
Yes, but must have official able to selectively single one an officer as well as an amount of citizens who complain
@B3M3TG72mos2MO
I support this TO AN EXTENT because obviously, police should be held to a moral standard (so that the misuse of power can't rise), but at the same time, the limiting of collective bargaining should be kept to a minimum in order not to disincentivize officers from doing their jobs.
@B35C8WL3mos3MO
Should Australian prime minister has in office for polices and drops in somes unions issued by french president revolution in based benefits
@B34HB8P3mos3MO
Yes and abolish police unions. Police departments SHOULD reach out to the public they serve and ask them to go to their elected officals on their behalf and request xyz. Didn't even know policemen can unionize. I can't even unionize at my job and im an engineer that is crazy.
@B33XPRJLibertarian3mos3MO
I believe that the police union should be able to defend its members, but if the officer did something wrong they should be punished.
@B323YVQ3mos3MO
Yes, but make it a very clear line what misconduct is so that there is not as much mystery behind what does and doesn’t count
@B2YDY423mos3MO
No very educated, but police union is more pay for officers. They do protect us from harm and put their lives on the line so yes pay them more. Yes there has been misconduct, but many of those stories have been blown up so it looks like the police don't do any good. Which in my opinion, is false.
Yes, collective bargaining power for police unions should only apply to salaries and benefits for police officers
@B2S7QD33mos3MO
No , If you prevent one profession from having a union while others are allowed those unions untimely will be abolished too. All professions have a right to a union.
@B2Q6TY73mos3MO
The police have as much a right to unionize as any group of workers or professionals, and I support the idea of unionizing any workforce. However, when it comes to legitimate misconduct of a member, the police are incentivized to protect themselves, and should be limited in how they can protect an indicted member. They are members of the government, specifically enforcement of law (duh), and therefore have more power than a normal union to deflect allegations or mitigate damage.
@B273GXVLibertarian 5mos5MO
The government should own no property and private property owners should be able to secure their property and defend themselves however they see fit as long as it doesn't interfere with another individual's rights to life, liberty, and property and therefore no public unions for police should exist
@mr.-snowy 5mos5MO
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Yes, it should never be used to shield police officers from accountability
Yes, I support limiting police unions’ collective bargaining power in cases involving misconduct. While collective bargaining is important for protecting workers’ rights, it should not be used to shield police officers from accountability when they engage in misconduct or violate the rights of individuals.
Police unions often use their bargaining power to negotiate protections that make it difficult to investigate and discipline officers, such as extended delays before questioning, destruction of disciplinary records, or reinstatement of officers fired for serious offenses. These… Read more
@9ZZTXJW 5mos5MO
They should be held accountable for actions unless it is a minor accident and both parties are mutual.
@9ZWPK8BRepublican 5mos5MO
Yes. I believe that there should always be body cams rolling, and I support zero tolerance for acts of discrimination and violence perpetrated by the police.
@9ZVXYXH5mos5MO
The police are replaced by private security companies, whether there is a union among them depends on their specific policies
@9ZLWXN2 6mos6MO
No, but reforms negotiated with unions should be paired with benefit increases and other union priorities. Legal action should be the last option
@9ZRP79W6mos6MO
It's more nuanced but the evidence should have more say so they shouldn't have more power if the officer is guilty
@9ZQ74RJ6mos6MO
Depends on the situation, if the police officer misconducted and they knew that they did when they were doing it, they should not be given bargaining.
Yes, but only in cases where the Unions are trying to get officers that are rightly scrutinized out of any trouble.
@9Z9BBXBRepublican6mos6MO
I support police but they need to have the same fear of the justice system as the people they protect
@9YL6RLS6mos6MO
No, collective bargaining should only be used to protect against termination without cause, but should include progressive discipline policies.
@9YKB35F6mos6MO
No. No form of misconduct or otherwise illegal behavior should ever be protected by law or enforceable by contract.
@9YHHGBG 6mos6MO
Yes, and defund and abolish the current police system to allow for a more progressive, safe, and just police system.
@9YB6GG66mos6MO
I think it depends on if the people under cover at some point have there life at risk or become endanger because if that's the case I think it should be sent to the FBI or a higher power.
@9Y8W2X7Republican6mos6MO
I think that we should keep police unions and bargaining because this is America and we have freedom of speech. but if police over use their power I think that they should either be suspended or fired and in some cases put in jail.
@9Y4TCVQLibertarian6mos6MO
Thee officer should hands to maintain their own liability insurance. Let the insurance company defend the officer.
@9XZLVKC6mos6MO
should just get suspended without pay if they used there authority for something completely off of what actually happened
@9XYBHRC6mos6MO
No, everyone deserves the right to unionize, but they should not be able to leverage this ability to escape punishment for misconduct
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