Currently sixteen states (California, Colorado, Connecticut, Illinois, Kansas, Maryland, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas, Utah, and Washington) allow illegal immigrants to pay the same in-state tuition rates as other residents of the state. To qualify, students must have attended a school in the state for a certain number of years, have graduated high school in the state, have confirmed they are applying for legal citizenship.
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@ISIDEWITH11yrs11Y
No
@9FL7LY4 2yrs2Y
It is better to get undocumented immigrants into the public college system so that they can earn degrees and contribute to the economy. They are not wealthy and for all practical purposes, resident of the state. So, given them an opportunity to pursue college education will ensure that they come into the mainstream, become valuable citizens, pay taxes, and overall contribute to our economy. It is to the advantage of the community to offer undocumented immigrants in-state tuition.
@ISIDEWITH11yrs11Y
Yes
@9FQK4YQ2yrs2Y
Why would we give an illegal immigrant in-state tuition prices while we tell the young adult that worked hard to get the grades to get into that school in that state that they have to pay a higher price? When you give to one group out of pity for their situation, you're telling all the other groups from the poor to the rich that that person is more important than them, that person is better than them, and that person deserves more. When you do that you create a hostile environment that breeds hate.
@VulcanMan6 2yrs2Y
So then surely you believe in providing free/accessible higher education to all people, right?
@TheHillbillyLordRepublican3mos3MO
"Free" education isn't free, it's just paid for by our taxes, and this would put a heavy burden on tax payers. Truly free education would basically be enslaving teachers. All "free" education does it make it so that instead of the student paying for their college, the wealthier taxpayers pay for their college, which makes no sense, the student or their family should pay for their college. And the fact that illegals immigrants would get in state tuition rates at state universities would 1. use citizen's tax money to help the illegals which is stupid (because… Read more
@9S8MS8CRepublican11mos11MO
yes if your came legally you dont deserve anything if you came illegally why is someone that broke the law entitled to stuff when they have no right to be here if you want to come come legally
@9F8B5FV2yrs2Y
no they should not because many Americans are struggling to find jobs, get into colleges and lack the support they need when they need help with providing either for their family or themselves. many illegal immigrants are taking our jobs and causing more poverty and over population in certain parts of our country and its not fair that they can come to our country and take our jobs or have the government support the when our own citizens are struggling and are not getting much help if any because of them.
@VulcanMan6 2yrs2Y
So then do you support guaranteeing free college to all US citizens, or do you actually just hate everyone? Because you can't just use "Americans" as a prop to further deny resources to immigrants if you don't even actually support providing free resources to citizens either...
@9L88VD3 1yr1Y
What made you jump to that conclusion? Illegal immigrants should be deported, not given favorable tuition rates for in state residents. I will agree there's a lot wrong with our education system, and tuition is inflated all around. Many students pursue degrees that are useless in helping them provide for themselves in a career, and either their parents pay out the anoos for it or the students themselves go into debt. We should stress the importance of choosing a degree that can actually help a student get a good job or career, and present alternatives to university like trade schools.… Read more
@TheHillbillyLordRepublican2mos2MO
We're not saying that education should be free to Americans, we're saying that education should be exclusively only for Americans. Even if the illegals have money, they still shouldn't be able to attend college.
@9FSZF2Q2yrs2Y
I believe undocumented students should have the same opportunities as every other citizen in the US in education .
@9S8MS8CRepublican11mos11MO
why they broke the law we need to uphold our laws and i think it should be a crime not to
@9F84RFS2yrs2Y
for example like honduras people are suffering because of the president he wants to make the country socialism.
@TheHillbillyLordRepublican2mos2MO
We should tell them "That sounds like a YP (your problem), not an MP (my problem)"
@ISIDEWITH11yrs11Y
No, and all illegal immigrants should be deported
All immigrants should not be deported, especially if they are becoming legal soon, they did all the paperwork and stuff so there is no point for them to be deported if they have a chance of becoming legal.
@9F8B5FV2yrs2Y
they are causing overpopulation and our government is spending money on them when they should be spending that money on our own citizens in need.
@TheHillbillyLordRepublican3mos3MO
You're the best! This is perfectly said.
@9F8BKNV2yrs2Y
they shouldn't be deported because if they are here in the US it's for a better life They should be able to stay if they are here for a good cause and not get deported.
@ISIDEWITH11yrs11Y
Yes, and they should also be eligible for financial assistance and scholarships
@9FNL5C6 2yrs2Y
Why should a criminal be granted financial assistance when they should not even be here. If an immigrant is suffering in their own country they should apply for citizenship and pay taxes. Then I will support them.
@9FL7LY4 2yrs2Y
The Center for Migration Studies of New York estimates there are more 1.7 million highly educated undocumented immigrants 18 and older in the United States. Approximately 1.9% of all students enrolled today are undocumented immigrants. Colleges already accept undocumented immigrants into their degree programs. They have the motivation to pursue their American dream, which is what brought them to the US in the first place. We should help them become contributing members of society, pay their taxes, and help strengthen our economy as a whole. It is also allowed for immigrants of any legal statu… Read more
@9FP8WVMRepublican2yrs2Y
By simply accepting these undocumented immigrants into public Universities across the country, we are giving them no incentive to get to the point of paying their taxes, strengthening the economy, or even becoming legal citizens, because they have clearly already been shown that there is no need to do the work required for it. They are going to get accepted anyway without having to pay taxes to support the university that they're going through, giving them an unfair advantage agains legal children trying to get into to college but struggling to pay because of the taxes they are having to pay.
@9GC6NF92yrs2Y
If Biden has raised taxes, lower tax brackets can't help their kids pay for college. College should be free or at least at a lower price because $10,000 a year for school is crazy.
@TheHillbillyLordRepublican3mos3MO
Then lower the teacher salary
@9G29XVFIndependent2yrs2Y
Those who earn scholarships are those who should be rewarded based on ability, skill, and determination. The scholarships should have nothing to do with social background. Financial assistance should be given to those who need it.
@ISIDEWITH11yrs11Y
Yes, as long as they pay taxes
@9FLX3PZ2yrs2Y
everyone should pay taxes, even if you are illegal. but that still doesnt give you the right to vote.
@TheHillbillyLordRepublican3mos3MO
Taxes don't give you citizenship, it gives you the right to make money in America
@988NV6X3yrs3Y
People who pay taxes should be offered the same rates as others no matter who they are, if they consider themselves American, who is the government to stop them.
@9FND73T2yrs2Y
They are paying taxes the same as everyone else they deserve the same opportunities as long as they have not been convicted of any felonies.
@ISIDEWITH11yrs11Y
No, they should pay the same rate as out-of-state students
@9FND73T2yrs2Y
They have the same opportunities as everyone else if they pay taxes and have no criminal background.
@9GRZP642yrs2Y
They should pay the same rate because if it was unequal and if people just came to America so they pay a lower rate of pay than in-state students it would be highly unfair to the people who actually live in the country
@TheHillbillyLordRepublican3mos3MO
They should either be banned from going to college or deported
@ISIDEWITH11yrs11Y
Yes, but deny eligibility for financial assistance and scholarships
@9GRZP642yrs2Y
If you deny eligibility then what's the point of trying hard for good grades or whatever if it's impossible for you to go to college with a scholarship? You'd basically be losing hard workers for nothing by revoking their right to financial assistance and scholarships
Yes, but only if they’re confirmed to be in the process of seeking citizenship in their chosen state
@TheHillbillyLordRepublican3mos3MO
They should already have gotten citizenship before they apply for college
@9RDFDB911mos11MO
It is better to get undocumented immigrants into the public college system so that they can earn degrees and contribute to the economy. They are not wealthy and for all practical purposes, resident of the state. So, given them an opportunity to pursue college education will ensure that they come into the mainstream, become valuable citizens, pay taxes, and overall contribute to our economy. It is to the advantage of the community to offer undocumented immigrants in-state tuition.
@B25T8HT7mos7MO
I agree because allowing undocumented immigrants to access in-state tuition helps them gain education, contribute to the economy, and become active members of society. It benefits the community by creating a skilled workforce and increasing tax contributions. Giving them this opportunity helps everyone in the long run.
@9GN5KWP2yrs2Y
Yes, but only if they’re confirmed to be in the process of gaining citizenship in their chosen state
@9D6RZ6G2yrs2Y
Current in-state tuition prices should be the tuition prices for all students, including immigrants.
While it's understandable to want equal tuition prices for all students, it's also crucial to consider the financial implications for the state. In-state tuition rates are typically subsidized by state taxes, paid by residents. If all students, including those who are undocumented immigrants, are offered these rates, it could potentially strain the state's education budget. For instance, in California, a state with a significant immigrant population, this could lead to budget deficits or cuts in other important areas like healthcare or infrastructure.
However, I do see the importance of affordable education for all. Maybe there's a middle ground here? Perhaps a tiered tuition system or scholarships specifically for undocumented students? I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.
Deleted2yrs2Y
Yes, and they should also be eligible for free, higher education
@Mrzzoh1yr1Y
College and further education should be 100% free for everyone, regardless of citizenship or social status.
@9L88VD3 1yr1Y
This is a terrible policy. Nothing is free. This "free college" that you are arguing for comes from taxpayer money. Why should taxpayers, many of whom don't go to college, be forced to contribute to others' tuition? Especially when there is no guarantee that they will pursue a useful degree, or actually graduate, or use their degree to the fullest potential and set themselves up in the workforce after college. Many students pursue degrees that are useless in helping them provide for themselves in a career, and either their parents pay out the backside for it or the student… Read more
@Mrzzoh1yr1Y
Free education not only has been proven to work in a structured modern progressive society, lowers the debt ceiling, and feeds for an overall more productive and healthier economy. If this country utilized it's budget in more effective ways such as eliminating privatized schooling, or I'll even go with you on making it vastly cheaper, then there is not a negative outcome to be had in any sense. Sure you could make the argument that some degrees could be "useless" and I do agree we should encourage progressive careers, I am in full support of any form of further education… Read more
@53JFHTC5yrs5Y
It is hard to deny anyone an education; the real answer should be to minimize or eliminate tuition all together.
@92LK8GL3yrs3Y
No, not until they become documented
@B5X32CW1wk1W
If they are protected under DACA then allow them to attend school and charged in state tuition fees but they can not qualify for public scholarships. Private scholarships and grants are fine
@B55BZ422mos2MO
No, because "undocumented immigrants" should not be an issue. It should be a MUCH easier process to get into our country legally.
@Brandonnoe84Libertarian 5mos5MO
No, illegal immigrants should be deported but with a simple path to citizenship for illegal immigrants with no criminal record.
@9WDTKJ88mos8MO
Again, this is ignoring the underlying issue. What processes we have for people to legally join our country, how to foster that in a more effective way, so that all those in our country are bound to the same rules and the same opportunities universally.
@9GZDTYYIndependent2yrs2Y
Yes, as long as the decision is left up to the states and the qualifications are consistent with the ones described above.
@9DBSXFN2yrs2Y
@9L74FFC1yr1Y
Yes, but only if they’re confirmed to be seeking legal citizenship and have lived and attended school in their chosen state for a set period
@99T5L2L2yrs2Y
No and deny eligibility for FASFA
@98HKX4L2yrs2Y
Yes, and they should also be eligible for financial assistance and scholarships and grant them citizenship
@959N3GN3yrs3Y
Yes, why not if they can apply in the first place
@959X9LB3yrs3Y
I don't believe those who break the established laws of the country should be given advantage over resident, taxpaying, citizens. Out-of-state tuition rates can be near double in-state rates, which I was forced to pay despite being a citizen my whole life. I'm all for educating everyone, but not incentivizing criminality.
@9CKP4B6Independent2yrs2Y
No one should profit from education. No one should prohibit others from learning. Abolish "Us versus Them" mentality.
@98QPBDS2yrs2Y
Yes, but college tuition should be abolished.
@99CNVM9Progressive2yrs2Y
Yes, but they should apply for citizenship
Yes, but they should be documented first.
Depending on length of residency
@95SSZYG3yrs3Y
Yes, and they should also be eligible for financial assistance and scholarships, as long as they pay taxes
@8GGX6QLLibertarian5yrs5Y
There should be no public colleges. Privatize all colleges and universities. End all government funding of education. The market will determine tuition rates and private education institutions can receive any students they wish.
@8GGT5GW5yrs5Y
Yes, If the immigrant has been living in the state for over 5 years and is planning on becoming a citizen or in the middle of becoming a citizen
Yes, and Grant them citizenship
@985V4893yrs3Y
Yes, and all educational institutions and means of education should be free and accessible for all.
@97ZDDZ43yrs3Y
No one should have to pay for their education in the first place.
@92G59R83yrs3Y
I think we should give them citizenship so they can be offered scholarships financial assistance
@92HDCSF3yrs3Y
Why should they be offered what American citizens get if they didn't come here legally, why should they have access to all these resources? I understand that becoming an American citizen is very difficult and unnecessarily strenuous but that doesn't mean that you can break the rules and still be handed rights
@99QQFS42yrs2Y
Yes as long as they become documented
@97GXQH83yrs3Y
Yes, if they are in the process of getting citizenship
@95WCG2J3yrs3Y
If they become legal citizens
@92DJ33L3yrs3Y
Yes, and tuition should be free
@9222X743yrs3Y
@8XJFZM74yrs4Y
Yes, if they are granted citizenship.
@8WYYL274yrs4Y
yes if they become a citizen
@8NM2FKZWomen’s Equality5yrs5Y
@8N573PG5yrs5Y
it depends on how long they have lived here
@8KY3WLQ5yrs5Y
i dont understand the question
@8JQN3YP5yrs5Y
Yes, if they are in the process of becoming a citizen
@9YFTCQT8mos8MO
Yes, but only if the undocumented immigrants do not have serious criminal records in their home countries, such as murder or sexual assault or abuse.
@9F8QS8H2yrs2Y
Yes, as long as they file for legal citizenship afterward
@9F46TW92yrs2Y
Apply for citizenship, then apply for college.
@9F2NWH42yrs2Y
No but they should get financial assistance and scholarships
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