28 states US states currently allow teachers or school staff to be armed in the classroom under varying conditions. Proponents argue that without guns, teachers or other staff have only limited countermeasures available to them when confronted with a shooter. Opponents, include The National Education Association and the American Federation of Teachers, highlight the elevated risk of accidents and negligent use of firearms as more adults in schools are armed.
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@ISIDEWITH7yrs7Y
No
@9FLKWD2 2yrs2Y
teachers are not trained to use firearms the way law Enforcment is, putting guns in school is more dangerous and gives kids more of a chance to use said guns.
@9FMB95T2yrs2Y
Teachers should have guns and be trained to use them. They should have biannual reviews/audits to make sure they are up to standard with their control and storage of guns.
@Ars-Gratia-Artis1yr1Y
Boy howdy, as a kid going to a school that would make me super uncomfortable. Seeing anyone with a gun NOT in a security uniform already sets me on suspicion mode.
Why not private security firms?
@@1876-Elbert7mos7MO
What if the school couldn't afford security? I am also a student, and I can tell you now that at least half the kids at my school are carrying knives this moment. Do you think I feel unsafe? No! I know that if anyone decided it was a good idea try to hurt any student, they would find themselves with fifty ranchers pointin' knives are 'em.
Top Agreement
It could be harmful depending on the person and what they could do as well as kids could find it and possibly hurt themselves
@dijonmonkey6mos6MO
#3 Informed Domestic Policy Informed Armed Teachers
I mean, I consider suicide is a serious issue. Many people could lose family members to that.
Teachers absolutely should not be able to carry guns at school. Guns should not be on campus whatsoever and by promoting teachers to keep these in school where all of the students are send the wrong message. Also, there's nothing stopping any student to take it from the teacher and wrongly use a firearm. This should be a non-negotiable term and the fact that every school in America is afraid of gun violence and school shootings provides more to the fact that there should be no guns on campus. Ever.
@@1876-Elbert7mos7MO
Well, yeah. Until someone decides to bring a gun on campus to shoot up a bunch of kids. Would you feel better if the kids had knives they forgot in their pockets after taking care of their animals in the morning?
@TheHillbillyLordRepublican3mos3MO
If someone brings a gun to campus, that'd be bad. We should focus on improving security cameras so administrators can spot someone with a gun earlier and call the cops beforehand. Also, have security guards armed with nonlethal weapons that can neutralize or make unconscious, not kill, someone.
@TheHillbillyLordRepublican3mos3MO
I don't mind knives, killing with knives is very inefficient compared to guns. For one, knives require close combat, where the victim is able to fight back. Guns can be used from afar, the victim won't even know what hit them until they are already shot. I do martial arts, so I trust myself to be able to defend myself from someone with a knife at least long enough for authority to come and deal with the perpetrator, I cannot say the same about someone with a gun though. There is no defense technique against someone with a gun, unless you also have a gun. But that would result in a gun fight which almost always end up with one person dead, and sometimes the other person near death.
@9GN8F23Women’s Equality 2yrs2Y
Armed teachers can pose a threat to students as it is very easy to shoot students and staff in a school and can also distract the learning environment in the school if students know that a gun is present in the classroom, especially if they are young and do not understand the context of the situation.
@9GN9N842yrs2Y
yes i agree i dont beleive guns should be allowe din schools or classrooms no mateer what the case is
@Cuz-I-Know-Stuff4mos4MO
#4 Engaged Domestic Policy Informed Armed Teachers
“i agree i dont beleive guns should be allowe din”
I don't believe you can spell.
@TheHillbillyLordRepublican3mos3MO
How can you trust that security guard or teacher to not go rogue and start shooting misbehaving students?
@9GNBQGW2yrs2Y
I definitely agree. Teachers should not hold guns. It scares the students, and there is honestly no reason to have guns at school
@@1876-Elbert7mos7MO
It only scares the students if they know their teacher has a gun. Ever heard of concealed carry?
@TheHillbillyLordRepublican3mos3MO
I hate it when the government conceals important information from the public. People concealing their gun is no better.
@9GNC7MF2yrs2Y
Armed Teachers are not acceptable to have because they could use that weapon for something else as students will toy around with it if it is loaded.
@Cuz-I-Know-Stuff4mos4MO
#4 Engaged Domestic Policy Informed Armed Teachers
That's why the teacher should not allow the students to know about it. The gun should not ever be loaded but the ammunition should be on the teacher. Also why would the teacher use it on the students unless one of them is a school shooter?
@TheHillbillyLordRepublican3mos3MO
Because the student is always misbehaving and is really pissing the teacher off, and then one day the teacher looses their temper and pulls out the gun. Even if the teacher doesn't actually shoot, just pulling out the gun on a student is traumatizing for life.
Teachers should not have guns in schools. Although teachers would be required training, its easy to get careless or lose focus for a minute. The likelihood that a student could get ahold of a gun (on purpose or accident), or that a teacher misfires one, are too high to risk. Especially in elementary schools, but high schoolers can be just as dangerous since they might take the gun on purpose.
@ISIDEWITH7yrs7Y
Yes
@9F89Q7GIndependent 2yrs2Y
Top Disagreement
Guns cause harm. Having more guns in people's hands only increases the chances of gun-caused harm to our children.
@9F9P65M2yrs2Y
Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Pencils don't write papers. People write papers. A sane, properly trained teacher with a gun is a very safe and good idea to have in schools for self defense.
@9GGCD4N2yrs2Y
problem with this is by the time the teacher can pull out the gun to to stop the mad-man with agun, some people have probably been hurt, some killed, even. I wouldn't necessarily oppose this measure but there are probably better measures like posting police at schools and doing thorough background checks on people who buy guns.
@9RSWTTMConstitution9mos9MO
The fastest, most effective response time will be from a teacher, who is armed, and well regulated. (Knows how, and can, shoot to kill a man). A well-regulated militia keeps secure the free state. Let the militia, whom are also teachers, keep and bear arms. We can't rely on the police. We couldn't in Columbine, we couldn't in Uvalde. Rely on The Militia, made of The People. Our founders 200 years ago knew this.
@Cuz-I-Know-Stuff4mos4MO
#4 Engaged Domestic Policy Informed Armed Teachers
“doing thorough background checks on people who buy guns.”
We do thorough background checks on people. Most of the time people who commit crimes using them buy guns smuggled into the U.S. by (get this) ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!
@9TYJFHK8mos8MO
Uniformed cops will be even slower (more students murdered, on average) than armed teachers.
When **** hits the fan, we need to end it in a manner which maximises survival of the victims. Lethally incapacitating the murderer (or coercing their surrender) sooner results in fewer deaths.
@@1876-Elbert8mos8MO
Yes, but they could stop more from being murdered.
@9YKNJR7 6mos6MO
That would just increase the risk of someone getting hurt. If a teacher has a gun the bad guy might be more likely to get angry and even start shooting.
@Cuz-I-Know-Stuff4mos4MO
#4 Engaged Domestic Policy Informed Armed Teachers
They're going to shoot anyway.
@9F9K3QK2yrs2Y
A course should be offered and required to pass for all teachers who wish to carry guns. Safe gun control is not a hard thing to understand or abide by.
“A course should be offered and required to pass for all teachers who wish to carry guns.”
Safe gun control seemingly IS a hard thing to understand and abide by- look at what's going on in our country! School shootings are happening left and right. As a student, I am genuinely scared of a school shooting- and if the current, restrictive laws we have right now don't work, how can I trust that this "course" will?
@9RSWTTMConstitution9mos9MO
Yeah, they should qualify on child sized targets, unironically.
But, not being able to hit a target doesn't revoke your right.
@9F9M2XD2yrs2Y
I will feel safer knowing my teacher has a 9mm in the room with me. As long as the teacher went through train background checks and has a safe with a code or a holster to store it. I feel like this will lower the threat of school shooting. I will be honest, the people who say that guns kill aren’t thinking straight. The gun is merely a tool, it’s the one using it that’s the killer. The UK banned guns and then they switch to knifes. So if we are to go by the logic the left side is pushing we should surrender our guns, after it was guns that won this nation form the British. And I say if the government tried to take power like what’s it’s doing now then we have a right to defend ourselves from them. Just as the founding fathers did and that’s why they wrote it in there.
@9GGCD4N2yrs2Y
Banning guns is stupid as **** . I say this as a liberal, and the measures you propose (that being extensive background checks, training, etc...) is something I agree with, though the police would probably do a better job.
@Cuz-I-Know-Stuff4mos4MO
#4 Engaged Domestic Policy Informed Armed Teachers
I never thought that I would ever say this about a liberal but, I agree with you. You are probably the most sane liberals in the world.
@9TYJFHK8mos8MO
Cops are usually worse-trained than personal concealed-carriers.
@9F9PRM22yrs2Y
In my opinion I would feel safer if I knew my teacher had a gun to protect me and my children in the future.
@9F84L342yrs2Y
Teachers and/or students can take that weapon and use it. It's not safe. Having a loaded gun around children is the epitome of stupid.
@@1876-Elbert7mos7MO
Most people who carry a firearm are never going to use it, unless somebody tries to harm somebody else. And what about knives? If you say me just flipping a knife in my hands, would you feel threatened? I would have the opportunity to just slit your throat, but do you think I would? No! The knife is a tool, just as a gun.
@9F8QQWD2yrs2Y
They would likely be carrying concealed, and assuming you require carrying concealed if they do choose to carry, no one would know. Also, this is already a common occurrence with colleges in Texas. Even students can carry guns on college campuses, yet you see no college shootings involving what you state.
There are teachers that absolutely do not have the training and cannot be trusted with weapons in a school, there should be certain armed individuals that are experienced,but not teachers. There could be accidentally discharges that could harm students and in the end it’ll be more devastating than beneficial.
@9FX8CDV2yrs2Y
Yes, and a kid could have knowledge of where the gun is stored and use it on a student or a teacher. It's just not safe because you never know what could happen.
@9TYJFHK8mos8MO
It's hard to steal from an inside-the-waistband holster, assuming that said holster is being worn and concealed.
@9FX8KHK2yrs2Y
The argument is not about forcing teachers to be armed, it is about allowing teachers to be armed. That distinction that you obfuscated is key. No one would carry a firearm if they are not comfortable with it.
Negligent discharges just do not happen if a firearm is carried properly. A firearm (unless it is severely damaged) does not fire unless the trigger is pulled. If carried properly, the trigger cannot be pulled unless the carrier wants it to be pulled.
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@9F7Z7GK2yrs2Y
There is no need for a violent weapon to be in schools. It causes more fear and danger than protection.
@9F8QQWD2yrs2Y
We use guns to protect everything else we believe to be important. Also if the gun were carried concealed like Texas does in college, no one would know, and no one would fear. An armed gunman who's unable to be stopped is a lot scarier than a teacher you trust carrying a gun that you can't see.
@ISIDEWITH7yrs7Y
No, hire professionally trained security guards instead
@9GFQG5F 2yrs2Y
Top Agreement
Hiring professionally trained security guards would be a better choice instead of armed teachers because professionally trained security guards undergo specialized training and would be more knowledgeable in handling combat with an armed shooter than a teacher would. This also gives teachers assurance that both the students and teachers are being protected by qualified individuals and they would be able to focus on their responsibilities without having to worry about their safety.
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@9GG3GN5Women’s Equality2yrs2Y
Even though I believe that specialized guards should be used in schools, they are not always available during shootings and they are even targeted first during shootings, everyone should have the ability to protect themself and the people around them.
@9TFWSTW8mos8MO
Should they scan students and staff for weapons upon entry?
There are many examples of teachers undergoing extensive training programs, similar to those of security personnel. Take the example of Utah and Texas, where educators are allowed to carry firearms. They receive training on conflict de-escalation, mental health awareness, and tactical firearm proficiency.
In an emergency, a teacher already on the scene could react more quickly than a security guard who may be elsewhere on campus.
@@1876-Elbert7mos7MO
Yeah. Until the school spends all their money on these guards and doesn't have any left to do anything for the students.
@9GHCS8F 2yrs2Y
Top Disagreement
Unarmed teachers are put in the impossible position of having to place themselves between the threat and their students. Without the ability to defend themselves, you are creating soft targets and more victims. Security guards cannot be everywhere at once. Arm teachers to be able to protect themselves and students until help arrives.
@9GVVW9S1yr1Y
By giving teachers guns, you are trusting individuals with a school full of life. Who’s to say that one teacher won’t turn around and use that gun for negative reasons? You can have parasites eating your brain and never know until you wake up in a state of rage and have no control. Why would we give anyone the chance to have that happen?
@9GHCS8F 1yr1Y
Couldn’t that same argument be applied to security guards, cops, CCW permit holders? Also, there’s nothing prohibiting a teacher from obtaining a firearm and unlawfully doing the same criminal activity. Your argument isn’t based in reality.
@9GHFTW62yrs2Y
I believe that in certain circumstances they should be or the other thing to do is get more guards and do more training on how to possibly get students in a safer situation.
@9GHPFY6Republican2yrs2Y
I think teachers should go through training and be provided a gun with a very protective safe so no one can get it. but they should have it to help prevent and stop school shootings
Create a better school shooter system by having immediate help available at all times. Provide better training to teachers, students, and police/security. Providing teachers with firearms leads to higher risk.
@9GHCS8F 2yrs2Y
In what way does it create higher risk. As a concealed carry permit holder, I have been carrying a loaded firearm in public for the purpose of lawful self defense and the defense of others for over 20 years. Never once was the public in any risk. If anything, they were safer. The only difference is that I wasn’t a teacher? Can you quantify how the profession of the individual makes him or her a higher risk than anyone else? It would seem to me that all the risk lies with waiting for the shooter to stop pulling the trigger while you wait for this help to arrive.
@9GNL8F7 2yrs2Y
A uniformed guard provides only a single point of protection whereas multiple armed teachers provide a much stronger obstacle for a mass shooter.
Additionally, allowing teacher's to carry disrupts a shooter's plan by introducing unpredictability. School shooters often carry out a planned attack. Not knowing who is armed severely hampers their ability to plan.
Finally, armed security is a visible eye sore and may cause anxiety. Discretely armed staff is a superior choice.
@9GNMCZS 2yrs2Y
Teachers with firearms could present a danger towards the children. They aren't trained professionals like an armed guard would be, where they receive almost daily training. If a teacher were to improperly secure their firearm, a child could gain access to it and mistake it for a toy, which could lead to an accidental shooting. As well as that, teachers mental health vary, and they would need to go through multiple tests and background checks to be eligible, if one of these checks were failed and a teacher got past it, they could end up being the suspect in a shooting.
@9GNL8F7 2yrs2Y
It's a common misconception that police and armed guards are safer because of their training. Armed security and police do not receive "Daily Training" on firearms use. Most police departments only have a single qualification day a year where they fire an incredibly small amount of ammo. The Los Angeles Police Department's Pistol Qualification Course is a mere 30 rounds, once a year.
The reality is that a teacher who spends more than one or two days a year practicing with a firearm will be in a higher state of readiness than the majority of police officers in the US.
@9GNMR6Y2yrs2Y
I agree with this because too many people die in mass school shootings because of the failure of people to stop the shooter. With discreetly armed teachers the shooter can be stopped within seconds of the accident. This will make school shootings less frequent and harmful.
@9GJSK77 2yrs2Y
I feel like teachers should be able to protect their students with out being only one security guard on campus
@9GKX4TVRepublican2yrs2Y
Teachers that have undergone training should be allowed to carry a gun to protect themselves and their students.
@9GK52P72yrs2Y
I believe teachers should have the ability to defend and protect their students by any means necessary as long as they are clear of mind and licensed to do so.
@9GPFR2W2yrs2Y
A teacher can only do so much and has the main job to teach education. A security guard should be there and armed to protect students. In the case of an emergency, teachers should be prepared on how to protect children as well.
@9GLL7J8 2yrs2Y
if teachers are feeling scared enough they should be able to conceal carry in a school in case anything does happen
@ISIDEWITH7yrs7Y
No, this would increase the risk of accidental shootings
@9FPZJWQConstitution 2yrs2Y
If teachers were properly trained on how to operate a handgun that is extremely concealable I guarantee schools would be safer. If an individual who wanted to harm innocent people knew those people were armed that would be a sufficient deterrent already; and if they wanted to still carry out the attack they would suffer the consequences.
@9FQ33DB2yrs2Y
I am not sure they should know who is armed, but that teachers at the school are armed. It might be one, it might be all. Someone trained and able to provide on-site rapid response is the best deterrent a school can have.
@9FQ3MY72yrs2Y
Yes teachers should have guns if they feel comfortable having one. I think disgusting students who think about harming people in the school would be less likely to do so if a majority of the school was armed.
@9FQ5H9C 2yrs2Y
If there were stricter regulations there would be no reason for schools to implement them. If someone is plotting to attack a school they most likely expect themselves to either get killed or incarcerated. They have already planned out for the worst so they still would execute their mass homicide. If they want to kill, a shooter won't be deterred by people with guns. Violence can't be solved with violence.
@9FQ9JXW2yrs2Y
Very few school shootings have actually been stopped by "a good guy with a gun" which is a common argument that republicans will make in the gun control debate. Training teachers would also take too much time and money, which could be used to fund other important programs within schools. Not only this, but some teachers may not feel comfortable carrying a firearm, or they may not want or feel like they need to complete training. Overall, having teachers carry firearms in schools would simply be ineffective, and would be a waste of time and resources.
@9FN7CF8 2yrs2Y
Put the guns in hidden, armed cases that are only available to teachers that are licensed and authorized
@9FPSC9YProgressive 2yrs2Y
There are accidental shootings with anything, there were accidental shootings with kids just messing around. It is easy to feel threatened and use the most harmful thing near you to feel safe and try and protect yourself with. Its a dangerous idea when accidents happen even with people who don't want to use a gun.
@9FRJL8WRepublican2yrs2Y
Accidents revolving around firearms should be held accountable for the owner of the gun. School shootings caused by teens often happen because negligent people don't keep their weapons secured. Not that there's anything unconstitutional with not securing a gun, but in the case where something does happen, a negligible person should be tried.
@9FRHZJV2yrs2Y
But i think it would be safer if teachers had guns because if there was a shooting at a school your teachers could protect the students.
@9HKKZDC 1yr1Y
They would be keeping their guns in a locked cabinet where no one can accuse the without a key. I think they also should have to go thru some training or be able to pass a test to prove they know enough about their weapon.
@ISIDEWITH7yrs7Y
Yes, schools should require at least one teacher or security guard to be armed
@9G3MS36 2yrs2Y
Top Disagreement
I do somewhat agree for a security guard to be armed and still disagree with teachers having a firearm even if its only one.
@9G3QZ46 2yrs2Y
Totally agree, unfortunately the incidents of shootings in High Schools continue to happen, which requires an armed force to be present in schools, however those who bear arms should go through special education and be called school security. Teachers work really close to kids, and it is unacceptable to carry arms around kids.
@9G3PZ942yrs2Y
Security guards have the right to be armed because they are trained in the field and it is easier for them to keep their weapons out of the wrong hands. Although teachers can be properly trained, it is not a good idea to give them weapons because a student could get their hands on it and cause an accident.
In America, I think it is required for an adult to be able to protect a Full building of Children from a Shooter
@9G3NLDB2yrs2Y
I believe schools should have better trained security guards instead of teachers because I feel schools would be less safe if teachers had them than trained professionals
@9GMS35F 2yrs2Y
If there's a gun on campus, the chances of a shooting are higher. If a student brings a gun on campus, shooting that student is not a preferred solution. If someone is around the school with a gun that does not belong in the school, it's law enforcement's responsibility to keep them away from the school.
@9GMTSGNWomen’s Equality2yrs2Y
i mean in some ways i kinda agree with teachers having guns but at the same time what if one of the students finds it and as a joke he or she points it at people and it accidently goes off hurting another student i can see if theres no bullets in the gun unless there is a school shooter but at the same time you cant predict the future.
@9GMV5JM2yrs2Y
no because if the teacher is having a bad day or their in a situation where they louse their temper the teacher can use the fire arm on a student or other staff member.there should be highly trained officers of the law or even members of the military to be on campuses
@9GMTJ962yrs2Y
Guns are too dangerous to have around in general. We should substitute guns with other self defense weapons that are safer for everyone around.
@9GMVM4B2yrs2Y
I don't like the idea of teachers being armed with a fire arm than I wouldn't feel safe and some kids don;t look up their parents so they have to up to their teachers. And when they see the one person they look up to holding a fire arm there are going to think it's okay to go to on the bus in the school in a classroom with 12 or more students that can't even defend for them thinking it's cool to have a fire arm
@9H4J99PRepublican 1yr1Y
I believe that their should be an officer or security guard that is licensed and trained to the best of their abilities to carry a firearm and know when to use it.
@9HYSZTLWomen’s Equality 1yr1Y
This will also make it dangerous for students because if we give teachers guns, there's a loaded weapon in the classroom. It may make them feel unsafe and have the opposite effect?
@9HYTFLHRepublican1yr1Y
agree, it could also be a threat that teachers could also not have the best mental health and also decide to use the gun twards or with the students in the classroom.
Security guards have the right to be armed because they are trained in the field and it is easier for them to keep their weapons out of the wrong hands. Although teachers can be properly trained, it is not a good idea to give them weapons because a student could get their hands on it and cause an accident.
@9HYTDM81yr1Y
Arming teachers is a band-aid solution to a much deeper and more complex cultural problem. While this solution aims to ensure that schools are not soft targets, arming teachers without a proper vetting process could potentially lead to an increase in accidental gun deaths in schools, even in rare cases during which the deployment of a firearm would be useful to defend the lives of students.
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