In 1961, the South Carolina State Government passed a law mandating that the confederate flag be flown on the ground of its state capitol building. The law was passed to commemorate the centennial of the Civil War assault on Fort Sumter. Opponents argue that the flag is a political symbol that represents racial inequality and should be removed after the shooting deaths of nine African American church members in June 2015. Proponents argue that the flag is an important historical symbol that commemorates the state’s role in the Civil War.
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@ISIDEWITH10yrs10Y
No
@9FVZPPS2yrs2Y
The CSA was an enemy nation to the United States, and although people have the right fly any flag they choose, state governments flying the flag would make it seem like they are in support of rebellion from the United States government and the start of another civil war, and to show the flag of the nation would be in support of their ideals, which are based around things like slavery and segregation.
@9LF2YXC1yr1Y
The confederate flag is a negative symbol of a time when the country was split and another half argued over an inhuman right to own others, and the flag remains a reminder of those times and those who supported the grim cause
@9L3N8HG1yr1Y
It is also a reminder of the racist South that used to exist in the United States which should never be glorified or rekindled ever again
@9LVGYCV1yr1Y
The recent votes to lower Confederate Flags throughout the country in the last decade show that many people around the country do not agree with it's beliefs.
@ISIDEWITH10yrs10Y
No, it is a symbol of racism, separatism and treason
@9F98SLY 2yrs2Y
Every single state listed slavery and maintaining white control over other races as their primary cause for seceding. Read each state’s articles of secession (their very own words describing their stances).
@R3volutionDean2yrs2Y
Indeed, historical documents such as South Carolina's declaration of secession explicitly mentioned the "increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery" as a reason for their departure. Mississippi's secession document was even more direct, stating "Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery--the greatest material interest of the world." Therefore, while some may argue the Confederate flag symbolizes Southern heritage, it's undeniable that this heritage is deeply intertwined with the institution of slavery. Do you think there is a way to remember and teach about this part of our history without causing offense or harm?
@9GBJCM22yrs2Y
The Confederate flag is little more than a symbol for a country that no longer exists and who's greatest achievement was almost beating the U.S.
@ISIDEWITH10yrs10Y
Yes
@9F98SLY 2yrs2Y
Only people that have not read their state’s Articles of Secession would feel comfortable flying that flag. They have a misplaced loyalty to a treasonous cause, that has only been successfully propagated by intentional ignorance.
@9FFKWKP2yrs2Y
I agree! Most of the people who use it are using it to dog whistle their racism and use the "history" as a shield, without understanding the true history of the flag
@9FFN8JB2yrs2Y
It’s loyalty to states rights and checking a runaway federal government, not loyalty to treasonous cause. The question is flawed.
@9F8MGYB2yrs2Y
I do not have a counter argument because I do not argue with racists. I simply dismiss their ideas outright.
@@1876-Elbert8mos8MO
To all those who say no; y'all are forgetting that the North didn't oppose slavery until quite late in the war. It was not the plan to abolish it, just the CSA.
@ISIDEWITH10yrs10Y
Yes, each state should have the right to display any flag they choose
@9GWSHN71yr1Y
No way. They lost. Get over it. It's illegal to display the Nazi flag in Germany, so we should follow suit
@TheHillbillyLordRepublican4mos4MO
And why are you comparing US to Germany? US is probably the most free country in the world, Germany isn't. Who cares what germany does? We're better than them
@9GVCSPF1yr1Y
I agree that each state should have the right to display any flag they choose until it become offensive directly towards a certain group of people.
@TheHillbillyLordRepublican4mos4MO
If people are offender by a flag, no one is forcing them to look at it. They should just ignore it and move on, don't be so sensitive like a big crybaby!
@9H5GDKV1yr1Y
The confederate flag is racist, it hold negative connotations of our country and therefore should not be proudly displayed.
@9G2SZQ22yrs2Y
the Confederacy is inherently a Racist, Treasonous state that led to the establishment of Lynch Mobs like the KKK, the confederate leadership should've been tried for Treason. Flying a confederate flag ought to be akin to flying an ISIS flag.
@TheHillbillyLordRepublican4mos4MO
Raising an ISIS flag is promoting terrorism, a confederate flag is not. Even if it is promoting racism, you can't compare that to terrorism.
@ISIDEWITH8yrs8Y
No, it should be put in a museum where it was originally flown
@9FZNTR62yrs2Y
It’s a constitutional right to be able to fly any flag a person wishes within the United States of America.
@jsimicConstitution2yrs2Y
The gov't shouldn't fly the enemy flag.
Citizens are a different matter.
@9ZHPHSP6mos6MO
It is a flag that should be used by the people to show their support to the confederates. It is a flag of war not slavery.
@9GJVRS42yrs2Y
he flag most commonly displayed as representing the Confederacy is the Beauregard battle flag, also known as the Southern Cross.
@ISIDEWITH9yrs9Y
No, and ban any public display of the flag
@9F73M3V2yrs2Y
because people from the south or anyone who was on there side may have other reasons just other than slavery.
@9F7RCPR2yrs2Y
Many people will argue with many flags, but a flag means something to someone and everyone should be able to fly the flag that means a lot to them.
@jsimicConstitution2yrs2Y
We should still allow for freedom of association.
But the gov't shouldn't fly the treasonous flag.
@TheHillbillyLordRepublican4mos4MO
I don't care what image or flag they're displaying or what meaning whatever they're displaying holds. As long as they aren't vandalizing property in the process of displaying it or intending to threaten a group of people, they should be able to display anything they want to.
@ISIDEWITH9yrs9Y
Yes, but only at historical monuments where it was originally flown
@9G5NCQ52yrs2Y
Persons and NGOs should have the right to fly any flag they wish, but the Confederate flag should not be officially flown except at monuments, because it represents rebellion in the name of slavery.
@ISIDEWITH9yrs9Y
Yes, it is a historical symbol of the Southern fight for states’ rights
@97J4T593yrs3Y
This is exactly what led to the civil war...States did not feel federal government had a right to control them so much. I love seeing other people agree with the fact that it shows the states willingness to defend their rights against the federal government
@9VNM3SZ7mos7MO
States' rights to do what?
@Renaldo-MoonGreen 6mos6MO
Own slaves in this case. Why that is alright that's being supported idk
Slavery is bad yes, states shouldn't be able to violate human rights. But the notion that states can do what they want independent from what the rest of the country does is what "state's rights" is referring to. There were other ways to end slavery, it probably would've ended eventually. Not only was it wrong, it was also bad for advancement. Even though in this specific example, state's rights may refer to slavery, the general idea of state's rights is a good thing, and that is what the Confederate flag symbolizes.
@ISIDEWITH8yrs8Y
Yes, it symbolizes rebellion not racism
The Confederate Flag represents the entire of the Confederacy. Including all of their treason and crimes against humanity.
@9F8YX4L2yrs2Y
The Confederate Flag is a symbol of the Confederacy, an inherently racist "nation" that lasted for four years. The Confederate Flag was used when the South receded from the United States of America, and chose to continue the legalization and use of slavery as a form of production and labor within companies. The Confederate Flag should only be shown within the government in education to educate those unaware of it's symbolism in the history of slavery within the United States of America.
@9GBJCM22yrs2Y
If you feel the need to support Rebellion in the first place the American Flag itself is a symbol of more successful and more meaningful Rebellion
@8LQJKBFIndependent5yrs5Y
as a historical piece-yes, but not for anything else as it can symbolize racism and discrimination
@8N6QGZS5yrs5Y
This sounds just dumb, it isn’t a bad thing, I personally don’t care, but it’s just a dumb thing to want
@4YCRRZY5yrs5Y
It is an American swastika.
@8SLKCY74yrs4Y
yeah basically
Displaying the Nazi Swastika should also be legal. IDC what symbol is being displayed, it's just a freaking flag, a flag can't hurt anyone.
Regardless, the confederate flag is not a symbol of the country therefore it would not make sense to fly it on government property.
@9GQ2L6V2yrs2Y
Yes, but only at federally-owned historical or commemorative sites such as museums or Confederate cemeteries
@5DPVVN75yrs5Y
Only the Stars and Stripes, State Flag, POW/MIA should be flown on U.S. soil. Not Confederate, Mexican, ISIS, or other country.
@EmmaDerGroße5mos5MO
#7 Engaged Confederate Flag Informed Social Issues
since my BF is Mexican, I shouldn't fly the flag of Mexico on my property?
@9F85JC82yrs2Y
Yes, However, I hope the flag that is being talked about is not the Confederate battle flag but instead the actual flag of the Confederate Government as while it did attempt to defend a horrendous system that should not stop people or local Governments from observing and displaying a historic flag that also displays Rebellion but we should be careful as it could easily be used as a symbol of hate as well.
I appreciate your nuanced view. However, even if it's the government flag you're referring to, it's worth noting that for many, any flag associated with the Confederacy is a symbol of a painful history and oppression. For instance, in South Carolina, the flag was raised on the statehouse grounds in 1961, not to commemorate the Civil War centennial, but as a symbolic resistance to the civil rights movement. This context adds another layer to the conversation, doesn't it? How would you propose we acknowledge history without causing distress to those for whom these symbols are a painful reminder of oppression?
@9F85JC82yrs2Y
Hearing your side of this is very insightful for me and I would like to thank you. Now personally after hearing your side, I would have to say that for me at least there is no possible way to show history without someone, somewhere being distressed or hurt from not just a flag as we´re discussing now but symbols in video games and documentaries while all may not be applicable to our topic I believe it has merit being brought up as it does show no matter how you show history someone will be personally hurt or distressed even if it was not meant to so. I hope my response was coherent and respectful. Thank you for your time.
@4XQZWHC5yrs5Y
I think that we should have been educated more about it growing up. I am 22 and I just now found out what the confederate flag was from clicking the learn more button. I think if we were educated more on history regarding subjects of race and battles that took place and one race overthrowing the other, then we could breakdown racial stigmas that are still in this world today. Nothing is wrong with stereotypes but when it determines the way one person treats another, that's when it's not okay. As for the flag, it shouldn't fly in public places. In your home or on your property… Read more
@4XMWC8H5yrs5Y
They should be allowed to fly any flag they chose, but no state should chose to fly the Confederate flag, just like no state should display the Nazi swastika on state property.
Yes, but only at historical or commemorative sites like a museum or cemetery of Confederate veterans
@Grandmaster4yrs4Y
No, only the American flag should be displayed on government property.
@8P6WQ2M4yrs4Y
No, the Confederates were dirty traitors who started the bloodiest war in American history just to keep their slaves and got what was coming to them. That's not to say, however, that we shouldn't keep them in museums because even the most unsavory parts of history are still important.
Technically the north started the war by invading the south
@8SLKCY74yrs4Y
couldn't have said it better myself
@4XRL7NP5yrs5Y
Why on earth does anyone want to display such an elemental facet of murder, evil, human chatter, poisonous and discriminatory toward a race of people and an ongoing thorn of reminder and bad karma. No.
@4YK79BR5yrs5Y
I could care less... it's a stupid piece of cloth. PS bring the Dukes of Hazzard back.
@9YFCKMN6mos6MO
It depends on the location on which thought the majority have. It represents different things to different people
@9SV9J3J8mos8MO
People should let the state put up what they want since it is a simple flag and not something that they will see daily or impact them, as long as the state has pure intentions and explains beforehand.
@9S2PG439mos9MO
The confederate flag is a symbol that has taken on many meetings in America, its most prominent are meanings of rebellion, treason, and racism. The flag is a reflection of the group that uses it. The confederate Flags meaning is different for each person who view it. People should have the rights to fly it in their yard, businesses have a right to display it, governments should not display it unless it is for historical monuments and moments. We should not tell state garments they are not allowed to weigh it, but we should encourage them not to waive it.
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Yes it doesn't symbol racism
The CSA had nothing to do with the confederate battle flag there was a civil war and the south was it the wrong then but the confederate battle flag and dixieland had nothing to do with the civilwar all it represents is the south no racism in it
@9L74FFC1yr1Y
Yes, but only at historical or commemorative sites like a federally-owned museum or cemetery for Confederate soldiers
@9HWFL6BConstitution1yr1Y
No, the only flag that should fly on government property is the US and the state flag. No other flags should be flown.
@B3GDS3V2mos2MO
They should only be flown on places that were related to or somewhat related to the American Civil War.
I don't respect those who hang it but everyone has the right to hang up whatever flag they want.
@9ZYNW375mos5MO
if its going to be a part of a Civil War museum, then they should display it. Other than that, it shouldnt be displayed for any other reason.
@9ZD8TCG6mos6MO
No, they were deemed as traitors to the Union so it shall be banned from all public and private spaces but allowed in museums
@jsimicConstitution2yrs2Y
Dishonor
The CSA was founded in defense of slavery, committed treason against the union after Lincoln was elected, and took states rights too far.
@SovereignFlamingo2yrs2Y
The Civil War was not solely about slavery but also about economics and states' rights. The Southern states felt their rights were being trampled upon by the federal government, specifically their right to decide on issues such as slavery.
Additionally, labeling the Southern secession as "treason" is a matter of perspective. From the standpoint of the Southern states, they were exercising their right to self-determination, a principle deeply embedded in the foundation of our nation and the Declaration of Independence itself.
As for taking states' rights too far, it is more a question of finding the right balance between federal and state authority. A balance that is still being sought today in many aspects such as education, healthcare, and even marijuana legalization
@9J8576M1yr1Y
yes it symbolizes southern heritage and the fight they went through to provide for their way of life
@9CJ6CB61yr1Y
It’s the war flag of the confederates, the group that very openly stated their goal was “states rights” to choose slavery.
@9J8TP381yr1Y
The flag that’s generally presented as the Confederate flag is actually not the Battle Flag; it’s the “Dixie”, which has the same general design as the Battle Flag but is a different shape (i.e. rectangular instead of square). And yes, the Confederates were fighting for states’ rights, which included the right to hold slaves. I don’t agree with that part of their platform, But I also disagree with the series of violent and/or unconstitutional acts that ostensibly reunited the nation.
No, either it stands for racism or the rebellion... Ok well they rebelled because they wanted to keep thier slaves.. their in the rebellion also stood for racism... Honestly Democrats shouldn't be allowed to even be a party in the US because they started that whole thing and did everything they could to keep it going until they came up with the big switch.. which just tricked people into thinking the Republican party was racist and only by having a few Democrats actually switch to Republican because their former party swore of racism.. But again that want true it was just a trick..
@9BK8TXW 2yrs2Y
“Honestly Democrats shouldn't be allowed to even be a party in the US because they started that whole thing and did everything they could to keep it going until they came up with the big switch”
do you have a source for these claims?
@8NVLFMZ5yrs5Y
No because it adds no social value to society and only reemphasizes division while promoting racist outlooks.
@8G5KNJP5yrs5Y
We won they lost enough with that flag get rid of it.
No, it is a symbol of racism, separatism and treason & it should be put in a museum where it was originally flown.
@8MR2LDN5yrs5Y
No, because it is a symbol of racism. It should never be flown for any reason besides education.
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@8DXX7WJ5yrs5Y
You can deny history all you want, but you can't erase it, no matter how hard you try. It happened...If they absolutely NEED to be displayed, it should be with other artifacts from the era.
@8FDV9HN5yrs5Y
No because that flag is used as a hate crime.
@8F3MHJ95yrs5Y
No, why would the government want to proudly champion a bunch of proto-Nazi traitors?
@slynch915yrs5Y
NO. If Confederates want to wave their flag on UNITED STATES grounds, then they should've won the damn war. Only allowed in museums and private grounds
@8FWQKLD5yrs5Y
No, it should be put in a museum
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