28 states US states currently allow teachers or school staff to be armed in the classroom under varying conditions. Proponents argue that without guns, teachers or other staff have only limited countermeasures available to them when confronted with a shooter. Opponents, include The National Education Association and the American Federation of Teachers, highlight the elevated risk of accidents and negligent use of firearms as more adults in schools are armed.
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@ISIDEWITH8yrs8Y
@9FLKWD2 3yrs3Y
teachers are not trained to use firearms the way law Enforcment is, putting guns in school is more dangerous and gives kids more of a chance to use said guns.
@9FMB95T3yrs3Y
Teachers should have guns and be trained to use them. They should have biannual reviews/audits to make sure they are up to standard with their control and storage of guns.
@Ars-Gratia-Artis2yrs2Y
Boy howdy, as a kid going to a school that would make me super uncomfortable. Seeing anyone with a gun NOT in a security uniform already sets me on suspicion mode.
Why not private security firms?
@@1876-Elbert2yrs2Y
What if the school couldn't afford security? I am also a student, and I can tell you now that at least half the kids at my school are carrying knives this moment. Do you think I feel unsafe? No! I know that if anyone decided it was a good idea try to hurt any student, they would find themselves with fifty ranchers pointin' knives are 'em.
@B8M24TK 6mos6MO
to be completely honest teachers should be able to carry guns but they should be put away unless an intruder comes into the school lets think about this if u have a kid right you want your kid to be safe what if an intruder comes into the school there's nothing u can do to stop it the people intrudting the school knows the drills no matter what your child life will be in danger but if an teacher had a gun the intruder wouldnt hurt anyone because the teachers could take the intruder out
Top Agreement
It could be harmful depending on the person and what they could do as well as kids could find it and possibly hurt themselves
@B86KVHVConstitution7mos7MO
I agree that it could be harmful if placed in the wrong hands, which is why strict background checks and professional training should be mandatory if they plan on carrying a firearm during school hours. As for the students potentially hurting themselves, teachers should keep gun safes or holsters close to their chest or legs so that they're not easy for the students to acquire. I believe the teachers should be able to defend themselves and their students in case of a threat. There's a slim chance they'll have to use it - resource officers, security, etc. exist - , but it's not impossible for something to happen.
@dijonmonkey2yrs2Y
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I mean, I consider suicide is a serious issue. Many people could lose family members to that.
@RIPCharlieRepublican6mos6MO
Teachers absolutely should not be able to carry guns at school. Guns should not be on campus whatsoever and by promoting teachers to keep these in school where all of the students are send the wrong message. Also, there's nothing stopping any student to take it from the teacher and wrongly use a firearm. This should be a non-negotiable term and the fact that every school in America is afraid of gun violence and school shootings provides more to the fact that there should be no guns on campus. Ever.
@@1876-Elbert2yrs2Y
@B7M6944 8mos8MO
Top Disagreement
If teachers are not allowed to carry guns at school, then how do you expect kids to be kept safe? Our high school currently only has two School resource Officers, to cover over 1000 students. With two guns, there is not much that they can do if multiple people were to invade the school and start killing people. With 10+ guns throughout the school, students would be safer.
@B7MCG5W8mos8MO
I think the teachers should need to be checked for any mental issues first and if they dont have any, they can be armed to protect their students
@B86KVHVConstitution7mos7MO
@B7PYF6J8mos8MO
While arming teachers is a proposed solution for school safety, other approaches focus on prevention, security infrastructure, and mental health support to keep students safe, such as securing school perimeters, implementing mental health services, fostering a positive school climate, and using anonymous tip reporting tools. These methods aim to prevent violence and reduce the number of threats rather than solely relying on a reactive, armed response.
@B7MDLMG8mos8MO
Okay, I understand your point. However, there are more ways that students can be kept safe during school hours that does not involve carrying firearms. Increasing the amount of firearms allowed in a school building can lead to accidental incidents involving the firearm going of, it being dropped in the hallway around students during passing period, and a number of other things. You have to think about the bigger picture and other outcomes that can result from this. Yes, these are hypothetical, but anything is possible. These situations can cause students and other staff members to not feel safe if there is a unsecured firearm that can just fall out in the middle of the hallway, potentially going off and hitting another individual.
@B86KVHVConstitution7mos7MO
“accidental incidents involving the firearm going of, it being dropped in the hallway around students during passing period, and a number of other things. You have to think about the bigger picture and other outcomes that can result from this. Yes, these are hypothetical, but anything is possible. These situations can cause students and other staff members to not feel safe if there is a unsecured firearm that can just fall out in the middle of the hallway, potentially going off and hitting another individual.”
If the teacher is properly trained in the use of a firearm (and is competent/confident doing so), they'll know how to properly secure the gun so that there are no accidents. The gun should have safety features, and it should be on their person at all times in a holster at their chest, leg, etc.; somewhere students cannot easily grab it. As a student, I'd feel far safer in my classes knowing my teacher can handle a firearm and eliminate a threat if something were to happen.
@B7MCFCH8mos8MO
We have cops and many other reinforcement people to help protect us. It doesn't have to be a teacher or student.
@B87BKG57mos7MO
Police and guards can't be everywhere at once, especially during shootings. A teacher carrying a gun reduces the possibility of casualties if the shooter manages to enter the classroom. When properly trained on when and how to use the firearm, teachers can eliminate the threat before it becomes major.
@ISIDEWITH8yrs8Y
@9F89Q7GIndependent 3yrs3Y
Top Disagreement
Guns cause harm. Having more guns in people's hands only increases the chances of gun-caused harm to our children.
@9F9P65M3yrs3Y
Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Pencils don't write papers. People write papers. A sane, properly trained teacher with a gun is a very safe and good idea to have in schools for self defense.
@9YKNJR7 2yrs2Y
@9GGCD4N3yrs3Y
problem with this is by the time the teacher can pull out the gun to to stop the mad-man with agun, some people have probably been hurt, some killed, even. I wouldn't necessarily oppose this measure but there are probably better measures like posting police at schools and doing thorough background checks on people who buy guns.
@9RSWTTMConstitution2yrs2Y
The fastest, most effective response time will be from a teacher, who is armed, and well regulated. (Knows how, and can, shoot to kill a man). A well-regulated militia keeps secure the free state. Let the militia, whom are also teachers, keep and bear arms. We can't rely on the police. We couldn't in Columbine, we couldn't in Uvalde. Rely on The Militia, made of The People. Our founders 200 years ago knew this.
@@1876-Elbert2yrs2Y
@9TYJFHK2yrs2Y
@9F9K3QK3yrs3Y
A course should be offered and required to pass for all teachers who wish to carry guns. Safe gun control is not a hard thing to understand or abide by.
“A course should be offered and required to pass for all teachers who wish to carry guns.”
Safe gun control seemingly IS a hard thing to understand and abide by- look at what's going on in our country! School shootings are happening left and right. As a student, I am genuinely scared of a school shooting- and if the current, restrictive laws we have right now don't work, how can I trust that this "course" will?
@9RSWTTMConstitution2yrs2Y
Yeah, they should qualify on child sized targets, unironically.
But, not being able to hit a target doesn't revoke your right.
@RIPCharlieRepublican6mos6MO
@9F9M2XD3yrs3Y
I will feel safer knowing my teacher has a 9mm in the room with me. As long as the teacher went through train background checks and has a safe with a code or a holster to store it. I feel like this will lower the threat of school shooting. I will be honest, the people who say that guns kill aren’t thinking straight. The gun is merely a tool, it’s the one using it that’s the killer. The UK banned guns and then they switch to knifes. So if we are to go by the logic the left side is pushing we should surrender our guns, after it was guns that won this nation form the British. And I say if the government tried to take power like what’s it’s doing now then we have a right to defend ourselves from them. Just as the founding fathers did and that’s why they wrote it in there.
@9GGCD4N3yrs3Y
@9F9PRM23yrs3Y
@9F84L343yrs3Y
Teachers and/or students can take that weapon and use it. It's not safe. Having a loaded gun around children is the epitome of stupid.
@@1876-Elbert2yrs2Y
Most people who carry a firearm are never going to use it, unless somebody tries to harm somebody else. And what about knives? If you say me just flipping a knife in my hands, would you feel threatened? I would have the opportunity to just slit your throat, but do you think I would? No! The knife is a tool, just as a gun.
@9F8QQWD3yrs3Y
They would likely be carrying concealed, and assuming you require carrying concealed if they do choose to carry, no one would know. Also, this is already a common occurrence with colleges in Texas. Even students can carry guns on college campuses, yet you see no college shootings involving what you state.
@B787QYQ 8mos8MO
Top Agreement
Yes because when it. Comes to lock downs hiding won’t help anything bc the person will and can be armed and just shoot the handle to brake the lock, or brake the window and they in the room so the teachers or at least one should be armed to protect and defend.
@B797VMK8mos8MO
@B78PMTH8mos8MO
@B78FSW6 8mos8MO
Maybe schools should change their plans regarding lock downs. Hiding is never the key because most of these school shooters have attended school before, so they know what their drill is. Yes, it is horrible that teachers do not have much to defend their self or their kids, but more guns is not the way to solve this issue.
@B78FTN8Independent8mos8MO
There are teachers that absolutely do not have the training and cannot be trusted with weapons in a school, there should be certain armed individuals that are experienced,but not teachers. There could be accidentally discharges that could harm students and in the end it’ll be more devastating than beneficial.
@9FX8KHK3yrs3Y
The argument is not about forcing teachers to be armed, it is about allowing teachers to be armed. That distinction that you obfuscated is key. No one would carry a firearm if they are not comfortable with it.
Negligent discharges just do not happen if a firearm is carried properly. A firearm (unless it is severely damaged) does not fire unless the trigger is pulled. If carried properly, the trigger cannot be pulled unless the carrier wants it to be pulled.
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@9FX8CDV3yrs3Y
@ISIDEWITH8yrs8Y
@9GFQG5F 3yrs3Y
Top Agreement
Hiring professionally trained security guards would be a better choice instead of armed teachers because professionally trained security guards undergo specialized training and would be more knowledgeable in handling combat with an armed shooter than a teacher would. This also gives teachers assurance that both the students and teachers are being protected by qualified individuals and they would be able to focus on their responsibilities without having to worry about their safety.
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@9GG3GN5Women’s Equality3yrs3Y
Even though I believe that specialized guards should be used in schools, they are not always available during shootings and they are even targeted first during shootings, everyone should have the ability to protect themself and the people around them.
@9TFWSTW2yrs2Y
There are many examples of teachers undergoing extensive training programs, similar to those of security personnel. Take the example of Utah and Texas, where educators are allowed to carry firearms. They receive training on conflict de-escalation, mental health awareness, and tactical firearm proficiency.
In an emergency, a teacher already on the scene could react more quickly than a security guard who may be elsewhere on campus.
@@1876-Elbert2yrs2Y
@9GHCS8F 3yrs3Y
Top Disagreement
Unarmed teachers are put in the impossible position of having to place themselves between the threat and their students. Without the ability to defend themselves, you are creating soft targets and more victims. Security guards cannot be everywhere at once. Arm teachers to be able to protect themselves and students until help arrives.
@9GVVW9S3yrs3Y
By giving teachers guns, you are trusting individuals with a school full of life. Who’s to say that one teacher won’t turn around and use that gun for negative reasons? You can have parasites eating your brain and never know until you wake up in a state of rage and have no control. Why would we give anyone the chance to have that happen?
@9GHCS8F 3yrs3Y
@9GHFTW63yrs3Y
@9GHPFY6Republican3yrs3Y
Create a better school shooter system by having immediate help available at all times. Provide better training to teachers, students, and police/security. Providing teachers with firearms leads to higher risk.
@9GHCS8F 3yrs3Y
In what way does it create higher risk. As a concealed carry permit holder, I have been carrying a loaded firearm in public for the purpose of lawful self defense and the defense of others for over 20 years. Never once was the public in any risk. If anything, they were safer. The only difference is that I wasn’t a teacher? Can you quantify how the profession of the individual makes him or her a higher risk than anyone else? It would seem to me that all the risk lies with waiting for the shooter to stop pulling the trigger while you wait for this help to arrive.
@B7CDXDR 8mos8MO
I would feel much more safe with a security officer armed to protect me than a teacher that who knows how good they are with a gun.
@B7C73DZ8mos8MO
@B7D7LFM8mos8MO
@B7F8GWY8mos8MO
You are not entirely incorrect, however if a teacher was to be armed it only makes sense that they undergo the proper training to wield a weapon. Furthermore, if a teacher who has undergone the proper training manages to make students unsafe, that is a reflection of the individual teacher. I'd also like to add that a security officer cannot be in a classroom, or a hallway down at every given moment if something were to arise. '
@B7D3BWWRepublican8mos8MO
@B8QTFTP 6mos6MO
Having an armed, trained security official forms kids to be more diligent and on task, not focusing on socializing in the hallway everyday and focusing more on paying attention.
@B8RQ59B6mos6MO
@B8RQ3FD6mos6MO
@B8S87YV6mos6MO
@B8T4ZP7 6mos6MO
@ISIDEWITH8yrs8Y
@9FPZJWQConstitution 3yrs3Y
If teachers were properly trained on how to operate a handgun that is extremely concealable I guarantee schools would be safer. If an individual who wanted to harm innocent people knew those people were armed that would be a sufficient deterrent already; and if they wanted to still carry out the attack they would suffer the consequences.
@9FQ33DB3yrs3Y
@9FQ3MY73yrs3Y
@9FQ9JXW3yrs3Y
Very few school shootings have actually been stopped by "a good guy with a gun" which is a common argument that republicans will make in the gun control debate. Training teachers would also take too much time and money, which could be used to fund other important programs within schools. Not only this, but some teachers may not feel comfortable carrying a firearm, or they may not want or feel like they need to complete training. Overall, having teachers carry firearms in schools would simply be ineffective, and would be a waste of time and resources.
@RIPCharlieRepublican6mos6MO
@9FQ5H9C 3yrs3Y
If there were stricter regulations there would be no reason for schools to implement them. If someone is plotting to attack a school they most likely expect themselves to either get killed or incarcerated. They have already planned out for the worst so they still would execute their mass homicide. If they want to kill, a shooter won't be deterred by people with guns. Violence can't be solved with violence.
@9FN7CF8 3yrs3Y
@B8PKJNR 6mos6MO
Weapons of any kind should be prohibited in public settings where children are present. In addition, gun laws should be strengthened to make it more difficult for individuals to openly carry or obtain firearms in the first place.
@B8RW7JVRepublican6mos6MO
I believe that's why it should be the teachers job to prohibit any students getting near the gun. The teacher could put it in a locked drawer away from the class and only use it if necessary. Also we already have strict gun laws and required background checks. These laws won't stop criminals from getting guns. they will only make it harder and longer for the people who want to protect themselves.
@B8SG5RS6mos6MO
@B8QLQ33Republican6mos6MO
Enforcing more gun laws does not make it impossible for an unregistered gun to make it into a school system. Furthermore, the gun would not be lying around, rather it would be in a locked, unknown to students, area. Therefore, there would be no misuse of the firearm and it would be accessible in situations of need.
@B8S87YV6mos6MO
@B3VGV2T 1yr1Y
Arming teachers raises significant concerns about accidental shootings and accidental injuries due to the presence of guns in schools. While proponents argue that arming teachers can deter active shooters, research and data suggest that this approach may actually increase risks to students and teachers.
Here's a more detailed look at the concerns:
1. Increased Risk of Accidental Shooting:
Lack of Training:
Teachers typically don't receive the same level of training as law enforcement officers, which could lead to mistakes in identifying the shooter or accidentally shooting a bystan… Read more
@ISIDEWITH8yrs8Y
@B79L4K6 8mos8MO
Top Disagreement
Mandating armed personnel in schools, whether teachers or security guards, can create a false sense of security and may escalate violence rather than prevent it, while also increasing liability and safety risks in an environment meant for learning.
@B79PG9H8mos8MO
@B7FLSL48mos8MO
@B7GR25R8mos8MO
I believe at all schools there should be armed security guards. It is the case where now we need stronger forces at schools to protect kids from getting killed, but that is the way it is now. The security guards should be well trained, and not scared to try to help whenever a situation is in action.
@B7BWPJ48mos8MO
I agree with this comment because it makes no sense to fight guns with guns like if you're a parent and just want your kid to go to school and not have to think of the big chance of your child not coming home that day because a white man didn't love his life enough so he thought of taking not only his but the innocent lives as well.
Top Agreement
If a teacher or guard is armed, we have a better chance of keeping students safe in the event that a shooting or emergency would occur
@B9CVJDF4mos4MO
On the surface level, yes, this is a good idea. But, realistically, we never know when a teacher or even a school guard could choose to use that firearm for something other than defense. Unless serious mental health evaluations and background checks take place, it truly is not a good idea. Even with those measures, there is no telling what someone who is given a firearm will do.
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@9G3MS36 3yrs3Y
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